Bluebarrels Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I can perhaps see where you might blame a small shot size for wounding , but for missing ?? , surely that is down to your ability to put it in the right place. I have shot many 1000s of pigeon with 7 1/2 s and just as many with 6s and I really cannot tell any difference in the amount that get wounded , if you put those clay loads in the right place at a sensible range then they will do the job fine. BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I've read a lot of the 6 vs 7.5 debates on here over the past few years, and as I'd never really shot pigeon in numbers, I couldn't comment. However I recently bagged some permission, and have had some good days over the past few months. Naturally, I tried a few loads and here's my opinion... When decoying at 'short - medium' range I can honestly say I noticed no difference in kills (or meat damage) between 6s and 7.5s. HOWEVER, I remember shooting one 'rangier' pigeon with a 28g 7.5 that carried on some 100 yards before dropping the other side of a hedge. It took me and the dog 15minutes of searching before he brought it to hand, and it was still alive when he did. Whilst I'd probably only winged it, I couldn't help but wonder if it would have died had I been using a no.6. That was enough to make my mind up and I've firmly settled on 6's now. Fibre wad every time too, as the cost difference is negligible IMO. I think the only reason people choose to use clay loads is cost. There are now several 'budget' pigeon loads on the market that do a fine job, the last lot I bought where £43 a slab in fibre (although the prices have since gone up). For me, I'd rather pay a little more for cartridges and remove any doubt that I could injure a bird with a 7.5, that would possibly have been killed had I used a no.6. Based on an average days shooting, I bet your not even looking at an extra fiver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 the last time this topic came up, one fact came up, sometimes economy shells labelled 7.5 can have any shotsize in there, 8s and 9s. its a lie, just like the fact shells rarely get the quoted speeds. makes you htink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 I've read a lot of the 6 vs 7.5 debates on here over the past few years, and as I'd never really shot pigeon in numbers, I couldn't comment. However I recently bagged some permission, and have had some good days over the past few months. Naturally, I tried a few loads and here's my opinion... When decoying at 'short - medium' range I can honestly say I noticed no difference in kills (or meat damage) between 6s and 7.5s. HOWEVER, I remember shooting one 'rangier' pigeon with a 28g 7.5 that carried on some 100 yards before dropping the other side of a hedge. It took me and the dog 15minutes of searching before he brought it to hand, and it was still alive when he did. Whilst I'd probably only winged it, I couldn't help but wonder if it would have died had I been using a no.6. That was enough to make my mind up and I've firmly settled on 6's now. Fibre wad every time too, as the cost difference is negligible IMO. I think the only reason people choose to use clay loads is cost. There are now several 'budget' pigeon loads on the market that do a fine job, the last lot I bought where £43 a slab in fibre (although the prices have since gone up). For me, I'd rather pay a little more for cartridges and remove any doubt that I could injure a bird with a 7.5, that would possibly have been killed had I used a no.6. Based on an average days shooting, I bet your not even looking at an extra fiver! I'm sorry, but that is flawed logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Mostly stick to 30g 6's 32g 6's for pheasant and pigeon. Had one box of 28g 7.5's and too many were pricked for my liking, but they were cheap rio's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I'm sorry, but that is flawed logic. I have to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I'm sorry, but that is flawed logic.It isn't, although I admit the statement doesn't read very well. A no.6 will do more damage than a 7.5 (assuming comparable velocity, antimony etc). Although it's probably unlikely, If a single stray pellet hit a pigeon at range I'd rather it was a no.6 than 7.5, hence why I use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Below is a photo from this evening. A photo of a fast crossing young woodie crossing right to left at speed approx 30yards out in the bag and home. The load was an equal amount of black to the shot load...a 1oz load of 7&1/2 shot! If that load is approaching 1000fps it's doing well! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike525steel Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 28g 7's are fine just get them in range and in the middle of the pattern stop reaching out for long birds especially pigeons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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