Alpha Mule Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 A question: I have a permission that has some extremely lamp shy (adult) foxes and am having trouble getting them to come out to play after the initial eye-shine. As soon as I get shine the lamp goes off, but they then disappear and can't be found when I flick on the lamp on the rifle. So I'm thinking that if they regularly see the lamp and nothing happens, do they de-sensitise to lamps? I moved too fast to line up a fox that came from directly down-wind and it scarpered, but I then saw a few cubs (defo 2 - poss 4), but they were very reluctant to play for the torch - but very keen to come for the squeaks on my phone. Had the call running for about a minute then flicked on the lamp and scared the poo out of myself when I spotted a cub about 10ft away. Needless to say he ran faster than I could sight. My lamp pressure switch playing up didn't help much either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon man Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Night vision ? And laser pen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted August 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Have a LIDL NV Monocle. They work OK to a point. Have just been given permission to take GF with me to work as 'lamp (wo)man' which should make a massive difference. Plan for her to use my red laser (actual laser not a high power focusable lamp) to point me at the target before switching on lamp (if I can fix the buttons) or use a hand held. IMHO the monocle is great for detecting motion, but pants at 'shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted August 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Can't afford NV scope. Am somewhat 'challenged' financially at the mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon man Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Different colour ? Amber ? Green ? Blue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 How do you know they have not been shot at?? I have loads of foxes on my land that have been shot at before....a local guy over the road from my permission takes wild shots at them and makes them just like you describe....I just bait them or get them at first or last light.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Try keeping the lamp on but just in front of them ,don't light them up until your ready to shoot. This will allow you to follow the Fox as you will see the eyes and will keep you hidden from view in the dark halo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy bingo Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 as archie has just said get down there before dark , just as its getting dark start calling and they should appear and you should,nt need a lamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 When searching try to avoid stopping the lamp when you light one up and never turn the lamp off when you're on one. A slow sweep is better than a quick one as it gives you time to identify and judge distance and sweep on through before turning off. As GH says about the rifle mounted lamp but if one is coming straight in at you, I prefer to keep the main beam area behind (above) as then you can see where it's gone if it decides to bottle out. Provided it's in range, if this happens a short sharp shout will often stop it, turning towards the sound for a quick shufti which, again, often gives you time for a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) How do you know they have not been shot at?? I have loads of foxes on my land that have been shot at before....a local guy over the road from my permission takes wild shots at them and makes them just like you describe....I just bait them or get them at first or last light.. I agree that first or last light seems to be a possible answer. I haven't bothered with the lamp so far this year since early spring as I like to wait for the nights to get darker earlier, and I prefer to shoot either early morning or late evening so as not to educate the foxes. I too have had similar experiences this year where farmers and local residents have told me of foxes coming on to their land from "across the other side of the main road" - I don't have permission on that side of the road not have I tried to gain permission there as I believe it is shot over by another shooter! In a way it is fortunate for me as the farmers whose land I shoot on are reporting very few active fox earths on their land in that particular area! Edited September 3, 2013 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe soapy Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Have a LIDL NV Monocle. They work OK to a point. Have just been given permission to take GF with me to work as 'lamp (wo)man' which should make a massive difference. Plan for her to use my red laser (actual laser not a high power focusable lamp) to point me at the target before switching on lamp (if I can fix the buttons) or use a hand held. IMHO the monocle is great for detecting motion, but pants at 'shine. Now thats a good way to test a relationship. Have found that females dont take kindly to being told off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Thanks for the words guys. The foxes normally don't come out until after dark (although I have seen a very blond one just after sunset, but it clocked me as I was trying to get a clear view through a fence). The girlfriend is very keen and likes to take instruction (bwahahahahaha!) She is also very good at spotting rabbits in low light. Maybe I should sit in and watch telly and send her out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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