rtaylor Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Nearly got all my reloading kit together. A friend has asked me to reload his 22-250 as well as my 243. I was going to use Hogdens H414 for the 243 probably 100gr bullets. Would this work for the 22-250 as well or would I need another type of powder? What would you guys recommend? Or is there a better brand for either or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I have used Hodgdons H380 powder for my .243 & .22-250 for many years. It's suitable for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) Just googled H414 It states suitable for 22-250 you just need a load manual to find out the data. There is a load for 22-250 on the H414 label. Edited October 7, 2013 by malantone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMcC Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I have used H380 for many years in 22-250 .243 and .308, it is probably the most versatile powder available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtaylor Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'll have to have a look at what the local shop can get hold of but H380 sounds like a good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I have used H380 for many years in 22-250 .243 and .308, it is probably the most versatile powder available. It was recommended to me, many years ago when I started reloading. I'm not saying it's the best, but it's always done well for me. I'll have to have a look at what the local shop can get hold of but H380 sounds like a good option. There's a shortage of H380. I know a local dealer who has a few tubs, but for you to have it sent by post, would probably cost you an extra £20+ in postage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry931 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 What bullet weight for the .22-250? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 What bullet weight for the .22-250? 55gr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry931 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 These would be warm loads. You know what to do. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Cartridge : .22-250 Rem. (CIP) Bullet : .224, 55, Hornady V-MAX FB 22271 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.350 inch or 59.69 mm Barrel Length : 23.6 inch or 600.0 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 58000 psi, or 399 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 96 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- IMR 4895 99.2 35.2 2.28 3691 99.5 58001 13557 0.934 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 104.8 40.9 2.65 3683 95.3 58001 15104 0.949 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 104.7 39.2 2.54 3683 97.0 58001 14862 0.958 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 102.3 39.6 2.57 3681 94.3 58001 14947 0.950 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot BigGame 103.9 38.1 2.47 3681 98.4 58001 14334 0.950 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 100.8 38.1 2.47 3679 98.4 58001 14317 0.950 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 3031 98.0 33.6 2.18 3675 100.0 58001 12741 0.954 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 748 90.2 35.6 2.31 3666 99.7 58001 13465 0.952 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B 98.4 36.1 2.34 3659 98.4 58001 13926 0.959 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-15 97.9 35.9 2.33 3658 98.0 58001 13949 0.959 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP11 ~approximation 97.9 35.9 2.33 3658 98.0 58001 13949 0.959 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA11 97.9 35.9 2.33 3658 98.0 58001 13949 0.959 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon BL-C2 92.6 37.0 2.40 3656 99.2 58001 13891 0.962 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203 old 100.1 37.1 2.40 3654 99.1 58001 13917 0.970 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 98.1 38.3 2.48 3653 95.0 58001 14505 0.960 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 99.9 36.0 2.33 3643 98.3 58001 13482 0.943 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4064 104.8 35.9 2.33 3638 100.0 58001 13178 0.988 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2520 95.0 35.9 2.32 3635 99.9 58001 13156 0.971 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 102.1 36.6 2.37 3635 98.8 58001 13683 0.966 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R903 105.0 37.0 2.40 3632 98.8 57297 13753 0.975 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2495 97.7 33.9 2.19 3631 100.0 58001 12563 0.991 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 99.2 37.1 2.41 3631 96.7 58001 13963 0.963 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 507 91.9 35.1 2.28 3628 99.3 58001 13224 0.956 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 9 95.3 36.1 2.34 3627 98.4 58001 13508 0.955 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot TAC 91.2 35.1 2.27 3627 99.3 58001 13198 0.956 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N530 91.2 33.6 2.18 3626 99.3 58001 12992 0.953 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4895 100.5 35.6 2.31 3626 99.8 58001 12950 0.949 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H322 91.2 32.4 2.10 3623 100.0 58001 12230 0.949 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S321 91.1 35.5 2.30 3622 99.4 58001 13270 0.962 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 516 95.4 37.2 2.41 3618 96.6 58001 13757 0.956 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 202 95.3 34.4 2.23 3617 100.0 58001 12674 0.961 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 100.3 35.6 2.30 3609 97.8 58001 13292 0.950 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2208 100.0 35.6 2.30 3609 97.8 58001 13292 0.950 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 201 91.8 34.4 2.23 3607 99.3 58001 13016 0.969 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 101.1 35.0 2.27 3607 98.0 58001 13107 0.954 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S341 94.5 36.9 2.39 3606 98.3 58001 13247 0.957 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R902 97.7 34.5 2.24 3596 99.2 58001 12874 0.970 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R901 93.9 32.7 2.12 3594 100.0 58001 12409 0.976 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N135 104.0 34.6 2.24 3593 100.0 58001 11952 0.965 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 105.0 38.3 2.48 3587 94.3 53056 14393 0.980 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N140 99.3 35.0 2.27 3584 100.0 58001 12217 0.960 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 105.0 38.1 2.47 3580 96.0 52481 14299 0.994 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.0 38.1 2.47 3579 96.0 52428 14290 0.995 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-12 90.9 33.9 2.20 3575 100.0 58001 11957 0.956 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R907 103.7 37.3 2.42 3575 93.3 58001 13545 0.963 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S060 94.0 33.7 2.18 3575 99.1 58001 12415 0.953 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Benchmark 92.1 33.2 2.15 3567 99.5 58001 12222 0.955 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 204 105.0 39.7 2.57 3566 90.5 55099 14194 0.969 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N540 99.0 36.7 2.38 3565 98.4 58001 13022 0.962 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2015 90.2 32.0 2.07 3559 100.0 58001 11381 0.971 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2206 94.1 34.1 2.21 3551 98.7 58001 12307 0.953 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N150 105.0 36.3 2.35 3547 99.6 55643 12695 0.980 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2206H 93.2 34.2 2.21 3543 98.6 58001 12235 0.952 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S335 95.1 34.1 2.21 3536 100.0 58001 11662 0.969 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N133 97.0 32.5 2.11 3529 100.0 58001 11033 0.957 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N130 91.4 31.3 2.03 3516 100.0 58001 10810 0.961 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S365 105.0 38.3 2.48 3512 98.1 46796 14261 1.042 Kazan Sunar 308Win 92.3 31.3 2.03 3509 100.0 58001 10775 0.962 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2700 101.3 38.3 2.48 3507 93.0 58001 12777 0.968 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 105.0 38.5 2.49 3436 88.3 49117 13534 1.021 Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 38.5 2.49 3436 88.3 49117 13534 1.021 Lovex S070 105.0 37.9 2.45 3405 93.1 46111 13608 1.072 Accurate 4350 105.0 36.8 2.39 3405 93.7 44731 13693 1.085 ADI AR 2209 105.0 38.3 2.48 3395 87.1 47028 13484 1.038 Rottweil R904 105.0 37.9 2.46 3377 86.6 48365 12891 1.032 Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 38.5 2.49 3374 87.1 45571 13528 1.057 IMR 4350 105.0 36.8 2.39 3359 86.4 46491 12905 1.051 Somchem S385 105.0 39.1 2.53 3339 88.8 44655 13293 1.081 Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 38.5 2.49 3338 86.6 44534 13289 1.069 Norma MRP 105.0 40.2 2.60 3335 86.7 41528 14448 1.103 IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 39.5 2.56 3292 81.8 42965 13484 1.084 ADI AR 2213 105.0 38.9 2.52 3257 81.3 42237 13103 1.092 Vihtavuori N560 105.0 39.3 2.55 3251 80.4 40145 13576 1.122 Raufoss RA15 105.0 38.9 2.52 3240 83.6 39398 13441 1.132 Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 38.9 2.52 3240 83.6 39398 13441 1.132 Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 38.9 2.52 3240 83.6 39398 13441 1.132 IMR 4831 105.0 36.8 2.39 3238 89.3 39279 12835 1.141 Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 38.9 2.52 3233 81.1 42888 12485 1.089 Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 40.9 2.65 3191 77.3 38874 13347 1.145 Rottweil R905 105.0 38.2 2.47 3155 79.8 38156 12480 1.150 Winchester WXR 105.0 38.1 2.47 3135 81.2 36103 12799 1.179 Vihtavuori N160 105.0 36.9 2.39 3111 81.8 38881 11440 1.144 Vihtavuori N165 105.0 38.1 2.47 3097 83.7 37180 11780 1.169 Hodgdon H4831 105.0 37.4 2.42 3082 78.0 37469 11618 1.160 IMR 7828 105.0 37.4 2.42 3068 76.8 35505 12096 1.185 PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 41.1 2.66 3044 76.2 35796 12546 1.187 Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 105.0 41.0 2.66 3039 76.0 35601 12516 1.190 ADI AP 2214 105.0 39.9 2.59 3028 75.8 36588 11858 1.177 Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 38.3 2.48 3026 82.2 32838 12575 1.223 Accurate 3100 105.0 36.4 2.36 2936 83.2 30298 11416 1.284 Norma MRP 2 105.0 38.5 2.49 2873 72.6 29050 11636 1.293 Hodgdon H1000 105.0 38.1 2.47 2831 70.6 30707 10535 1.265 Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 38.7 2.51 2695 67.7 26166 10265 1.357 Vihtavuori N170 105.0 38.1 2.47 2686 64.4 26759 9670 1.350 Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 41.0 2.66 2657 55.9 28496 9303 1.320 ADI AR 2218 105.0 41.0 2.66 2592 51.9 26670 9022 1.357 Hodgdon H870 105.0 39.7 2.57 2530 57.1 23081 9331 1.433 Hodgdon US 869 105.0 41.0 2.66 2511 54.4 23983 8814 1.419 Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 39.1 2.53 2458 48.6 23208 8147 1.433 PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 39.3 2.55 2307 50.1 19625 7523 1.538 Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 41.4 2.68 2266 46.6 19448 7360 1.552 Accurate 8700 105.0 39.4 2.55 2262 47.5 19483 6965 1.547 NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 37.6 2.44 2207 35.3 20050 5593 1.533 TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 37.6 2.44 2166 37.1 18504 5733 1.581 V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 37.6 2.44 1592 17.6 11139 2738 2.026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tignme Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Hope you have good liability insurance when you load for someone else just in case your load blows your friends gun up. i have been rolling my own for some time now and would advice against loading for others especially when you are beginner.Your friend might not be that for much longer. Good luck. Edited October 9, 2013 by tignme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtaylor Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) I intend to apply the same amount of caution with his rounds as mine (I don't want to blow my rifle up as much as his). Surely so long as you keep it below the max charge and totally consistent no harm can come of it (hopefully)? Edited October 9, 2013 by rtaylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholiath Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 What about h4895? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 35 to 38 grains of h380 will do a 22.250 with almost any bullet up to 55 grain pal,ive used 37 grains for the last 20 years with a 50 grain bullet, ive sent it faster some times when i get bored but i don't just get the same accuracy,this group was shot with my load shooting in a new remy the other month. 5 shots at 110 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 It doesn`t get better than that, brilliant shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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