bullet1747 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 hi guys was going to for load 22 hornet but after thinking about this Im going down 12 g reloading as I use this a lot more ,wot do i need ,don't mind spending a few quid but don't want to waste any either ,I shoot crows and pigeons typical vermin ,don't bother with game as I have no interest in this ,I've been buying hull carts and have a load of emptys can I use these or do I have to buy new shells,my first port would be to buy a loader was thinking about the lee loader ,could do with knowing we're from and how much cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 You can reload pretty much most of the 12g fired shells at least once. Just check the hull before comitting as if the neck is split it will not crimp right and you wasted your time! Crows I would opt for #5 shot and #6 - #7 for pigeon,.depending on range! Lee loader is OK as a basic loading press and I have made 1000s with mine. Nut if you get a recipie requiring wad seating pressures to be exact then there are other options. I stuck with 28g loads throughout and have been rather happy with the results, both in clay shooting and pigeon shooting. For different types of hulls to try out,.nip to your local clay club, I ask but normally they don't mind you helping yourself. I have heard of a few clubs CHARGING for empties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Shooter Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Start with a good loading manual, Lyman or reloading for shot-gunners is a good place to start, then you'll need a press if your shooting a fare few shells either a MEC600Jr or a Lee Load-all:- http://www.####.co.uk/loadall.htm http://www.####.co.uk/MEC.htm Most load data is geared towards plastic wads but if you want to load fibre or felt wads the the data takes a bit of finding but it is out there it will be cheaper to buy primers and powder from a suppler near to you as postage can be quite expensive or there are some UK sites and European sites that will post, Ballistic Products in the US will ship everything other than powder, primers and primed cases. hear are links to some sites. http://www.siarm.com/index.php?language=en http://claygame.co.uk/ http://www.####.co.uk/reloading.htm http://www.ballisticproducts.com/ Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I can recommend loading up a staple load such as. Vectan AS and 28grams lead shot. In 5 or 6. Plastic and fibre wads available. The bp z24 wad is a good start. Lots of recipes about.about the easyest load to get started on Find someone local. Do not buy used hulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 cheers guys shoot straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) If your going fibre or plastic a Lee Loadall will do the job. Some think it doesn,t work with fibre, but I had no probs. The Mec jnr I have is a more fussy about fibre than the Lee. Tbh, whilst the Mec is a great tool, its expensive and a pita, to set up. The Lee just works, but if your a perfectionist, get a spinner to finish the crimps off. I do this with mine off the mec. PM roughshooter on here and he will sort you out. I use 70mm shell, Fiocchi 616 primer, vectan A1 powder, 4mm over powder card, 18mm fibre wad, 32grms no6 shot, crimp close, as my pigeon crow load. I also do 28grms no6 in 20g as my walk around decoying load. Its taken me a while to get it all running how I want it and its addictive trying to get there, but I'm really pleased with it now. If you run into a problem, don't keep going, ask. There are some really helpful chaps on here and a quick question will save loads of agro Edited December 31, 2013 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 like cookoff says 28g of no5s is a good load with a plas or fibre wad and it sertanly drops pigeons and crows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I think that one of the big problems with reloading is lack of experience. Due to the huge diversity of the shotgun means that its hard to get experience for every type of shell, material, gauge. Now there are decent shells, cheap shells,great loads, economic wonders. Its just a matter of experience to try and read the loads pressure data. I am just getting to know a new powders performance. Its still Surprised me a few times. I did what turbo did. Got a load made, then I proofed many loads to get it running great.a few times I've been so impressed. Loads of failures at proof. But more and more, pass, and with great performance. My next loads to proof will be the rehash of a few failed load. One got so close to passing. I have done some fibre loads but,the next lot will pass. This attitude and dedication to proofing shouldn't put you off. My one goal that I got in '13 was to get 1000 shells out of a kg of powder. And I got decent shells too. That is reloading power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 My one goal that I got in '13 was to get 1000 shells out of a kg of powder. And I got decent shells too. That is reloading power. Now that's Cooking Cookoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 In a 12gauge that is impressive. One of my worst failures is the same powder but I completely cooked that one. I came in 1100bar. And the speed was fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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