bighit1985 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Hi all, well I've finally found the load recipes I've been looking for, but the shot size in the recipe is size 7, I was wondering if I'm able to change the size to size 9 shot and keep the rest of the recipe the same?? or do I need to keep looking for a recipe with size 9 shot. Also im looking for a game load of shot size 5 or 6 in 3inch carts, anyone got a recipe for this? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 The Eley 3" 18 gram fibre load will put 132 strikes of number 5 in a 2ft spread nice and even from mine full choke 25 yards. Be easy enough to copy I suppose? I think you can because its weight not shot count that matters, though you might have too many pellets in that string unless its a very light load, was thinking of a number 9 say in a 2" light load for rats at short range myself actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighit1985 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 The .410 is for my nephew to use at the moment, on clays and some game shooting so want a clay load of 9s to give him the best chance of hitting the clays and then a game load for when he does a little of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 You can use any shot size you like just make sure the weight is correct if the recipe says 18 grams of 7.5 shot you can substitute this with any size shot you like as long as you weigh 18 grams the colour height might change as 18 grams of 5 shot will take up a different volume to 18 grams of 9 shot. Don't discount 9 shot most of my clay loads are 8 or 9 shot and remember it don't matter if you use slightly less shot to get the correct colum height the load will still be safe but never use more . Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighit1985 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Thanks for that Deershooter. Much appreciated that clears it up for me. So I can use the exact same recipe and components and just change the shot size. I was looking at getting the lee powders dippers,the set of 15 dippers. Question I have does anyone using them do they just measure powder or are they for measuring shot as well?? If not for shot. What's the best way of measuring out shot??? Most consistent and easy/quick to measure out a load??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Someone told me to use a used cart on the scales zero them then fill with shot to the correct weight, cut cart down to level with shot. You then have the correct measure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Heck i weigh each one personally, it should be too much trouble. measure in pour it it into the pan of the scales, see what it says then drop it in the case. At very least I should check a good few for consistency if you just use a measure, I know loading machines work this way but I like the hands on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Make your own powder and shot measures out of used brass bullet cases ,solder a handle on when you have cut it to the correct height .9 mm works for powder .357 for shot but a set of scales is a must, and don't forget the same scoop for 18 grams of 9 shot will not hold 18 grams of 5 shot both these cartridge cases will need trimming to get the correct weights Deershooter Thanks for that Deershooter. Much appreciated that clears it up for me. So I can use the exact same recipe and components and just change the shot size. I was looking at getting the lee powders dippers,the set of 15 dippers. Question I have does anyone using them do they just measure powder or are they for measuring shot as well?? If not for shot. What's the best way of measuring out shot??? Most consistent and easy/quick to measure out a load??? How will you resize and prime and close without a press ? Please enlighten us Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 You know I find i don't need to re-size, fired in the same gun I am up to five or six firings. Priming? well if you look on u-tube there are about a dozen ways without a press, I however cheat around that wording a little and put a bit of bar inside the case pop in upside down and use a bench rest type arbour press (I think the lee Auto prime can also be used with the correct shell holder? As per the 44/.303 etc. Closing by RTO. This all relates to the 10ga I use and load for as currently I don't re-load the .410, shells are easy enough to obtain and for my quantity don't work out too bad price wise. Currently collecting bits and data as I see the potential in the more specialist of the .410 loads you cannot get over the counter. It might actually take me a fair while to get through 100 .410 shells as I really only use it for a bit of vermin work, this might change though because I can shoot it one handed from might right and my left shoulder has really given up to such an extent I cannot very well aim a rifle at present Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighit1985 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 So the only way of measuring shot is to make a 'dipper' from an old cartridge weighed on scales. Or to measure on scales with pan and pour into cartridge, measuring each time. Either way I'm going to need some scales, right?? What is a good set of scales? Reasonable price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 So the only way of measuring shot is to make a 'dipper' from an old cartridge weighed on scales. Or to measure on scales with pan and pour into cartridge, measuring each time. Either way I'm going to need some scales, right?? What is a good set of scales? Reasonable price? I bought the scales that claygame sell, £22 i think i paid. Not had any problems with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighit1985 Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 You know I find i don't need to re-size, fired in the same gun I am up to five or six firings. Priming? well if you look on u-tube there are about a dozen ways without a press, I however cheat around that wording a little and put a bit of bar inside the case pop in upside down and use a bench rest type arbour press (I think the lee Auto prime can also be used with the correct shell holder? As per the 44/.303 etc. Closing by RTO. This all relates to the 10ga I use and load for as currently I don't re-load the .410, shells are easy enough to obtain and for my quantity don't work out too bad price wise. Currently collecting bits and data as I see the potential in the more specialist of the .410 loads you cannot get over the counter. It might actually take me a fair while to get through 100 .410 shells as I really only use it for a bit of vermin work, this might change though because I can shoot it one handed from might right and my left shoulder has really given up to such an extent I cannot very well aim a rifle at present just to clarify with prime without a press, ive seen youtube videos that use nail to de-prime which fine, but with re-priming they are using a dowel, my question is, anyone know the diameter of dowel used for .410 but also is it just flat to the prime or do you have to put a recess in the end, to allow prime to seat properly?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I saw a vid on youtube where they used one of those screwdrivers that has a hex female end to accommodate different bits. Looked perfect for seating the primer , but haven't tried it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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