Afastr Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Just been given permission from my Landlord to install a shotgun cabinet in my cottage. The only feasible place to install the cabinet would be in the cupboard under the stairs so space is limited. I'm looking to install a cabinet lying flat on the floor bolted into the concrete beneath. The maximum "Height" cabinet I can accommodate is 940mM. I've been looking at a couple of Brattonsound offerings Firstly the super flat car one, http://www.thesafeshop.co.uk/products/auto-2-gun-break.html and the standard break down one. http://www.thesafeshop.co.uk/products/2-gun-break-plus.html I had however also seen the KAL offered by fortify which would give me space for a third gun, which would be desirable. http://www.winterfieldsafes.co.uk/fortify-kal-large-ammunition-safe.html Does anybody have any experience with any of these cabinets? Or would anybody be able to point me in the direction of another alternative product? Many thanks, Alun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Would a normal cabinet not fit then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 940mm high or long? YOu can buy a normal cabinet and fit it on its back on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afastr Posted February 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Long, I would be fitting any cabinet on it's back on the floor bolted to the concrete, none of the walls are suitable for affixing a cabinet and it's too long for a standard one as far as I can tell. I don't think any standard cabinets I've seen are under 940mm tall/long whatever Edited February 22, 2014 by Afastr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) The kal one might be best then its cheaper than the autosafe and has more room. Not seen one myself but check the internal dims the 3 gun capacity may be optimistic compared to bratton sound who are generally quite realistic on capacity Have you looked at DJS and JFC cabinets? Or these http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/380629712162?cmd=VIDESC&gxo=true Edited February 22, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cueball Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I have a KAL. Bought it so as my collection eventually grows I can refit the shelves which just pop in and out in 10s, and use as a secure storage for carts and valuables. Size wise I am in similar boat with where to put cabinet. 3 guns could fit but I would put gun socks on them to help prevent knocks. 2 more comfortable. Their is only 2 fixing holes which I wasn't to pleased with. Feel 4 would be more secure. I couldn't be bothered drilling extra holes so used the ones provided and placed against an internal corner to hamper any attack, and is secure enough that my ample frame can't get any play from it. Locks are smooth. My only gripe was the double bit keys seemed a bit roughly put together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Just get a standard 2nd hand 3-4 gun assuming that widh and depth are not an issue and cut it to the length/height you need and weld the top back on. Anyone with a grinder and mig welder would have it done in half an hour. I will add a pic of my understairs cabinet later but its along those lines. Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afastr Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I have a KAL. Bought it so as my collection eventually grows I can refit the shelves which just pop in and out in 10s, and use as a secure storage for carts and valuables. Size wise I am in similar boat with where to put cabinet. 3 guns could fit but I would put gun socks on them to help prevent knocks. 2 more comfortable. Their is only 2 fixing holes which I wasn't to pleased with. Feel 4 would be more secure. I couldn't be bothered drilling extra holes so used the ones provided and placed against an internal corner to hamper any attack, and is secure enough that my ample frame can't get any play from it. Locks are smooth. My only gripe was the double bit keys seemed a bit roughly put together I'd hoped for at least four to six mounting holes to be extra safe. Just checked the dimensions and I could have it mounted vertically potentially, with the bolts going through the base. Are there any holes in the base of the KAL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Decent drill and nice sharp steel bit (its only 2mm). And you can have as many holes as you want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afastr Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Cool, Also seen the BSA 3 gun breakdown offering, looks pretty good with a more substantial door. Can't seem to find anywhere online that stocks it though :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Try Philip Morris http://www.philipmorrisdirect.co.uk/shooting/gun-cabinets/shotgun-rifle/dept/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afastr Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Had a look there earlier today, they have every BSA cabinet listed on their website apart from the breakdown one :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Give them a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safc1973 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 If you are still interested in the brattonsound safe try mole valley farmers, £94.60 + vat. ordered one thursday night and have received it this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cueball Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Will look later if their are holes in base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afastr Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hmm I've just looked at the dimensions of the "2 gun (Cased) cabinet" made by Brattonsound, which would easily fit lying flat in the space I have available, and could easily accommodate a number of broken down guns with a little modification (Mutiple layers of egg box foam with plywood spacers attached in between layers. Think an FEO would go for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 i have a leighsafes breakdown 3 gun safe takes up no room at all and is BS, cant do links but just google leighsafes and they deliver in 48 hours atb clakk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afastr Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Had a look down on their website and can't see a breakdown cabinet :S Ah found a two gun leigh safes one on ebay. Edited February 24, 2014 by Afastr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hmm I've just looked at the dimensions of the "2 gun (Cased) cabinet" made by Brattonsound, which would easily fit lying flat in the space I have available, and could easily accommodate a number of broken down guns with a little modification (Mutiple layers of egg box foam with plywood spacers attached in between layers. Think an FEO would go for this? As long as they are inside the cabinet and the cabinet locks the FEO doesn't care how many you squeeze in or how you protect them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 As long as they are inside the cabinet and the cabinet locks the FEO doesn't care how many you squeeze in or how you protect them That depends on your FEO BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afastr Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Decided just to go for the fortify three gun cabinet for now, turns out that the BSA breakdown one was discontinued last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Decided just to go for the fortify three gun cabinet for now, turns out that the BSA breakdown one was discontinued last year! Let us know what you think when you get it. I may know someone in need of one... Edited February 25, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 put a big box round it, bolt to the hefty Box, belt nails along it so you cannot saw through it.. but you may move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 i have a leighsafes breakdown 3 gun safe takes up no room at all and is BS, cant do links but just google leighsafes and they deliver in 48 hours atb clakk If it is the one i think it is it is not BS7558 approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afastr Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Turned up today. Feels solid and looks the part. Only has two mounting holes on the back and two in the base. I think they're supposed to be used in conjuction with each other but for my purposes I may need to drill a couple more just to be safe. Haven't actually opened it up yet. Just checked that it fits into the space that I've allocated for it. Which it does... amazingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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