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[fortune]

There is something that a lot of people are overlooking in all of this talk about silencers being quite or noisy. Sound is like camouflage. You might be able to hear or see something but how is that medium interpreted by the listener or viewer. Sound can be affected by the wind direction and other background noise and can disturb game or be ignored as a threat. It can be affected by humidity, pressure and bullet speed and shape. BUT even if your mod appears to the human ear to be quiet then how the target perceives that is entirely different. Anyway the rabbits will all bolt in to ground when the bullet slams into flesh and bone making a crack or splat. What you need for normal field distances up to say 50>100 paces is a slow round.

No new silencer will be that much better than what you already have. A tool is a tool it either does the job or it doesn't. Trust me I'm an engineer. save your pennies and buy the slowest ammo with the money that you would spend to get what you already have.

Edited May 2, 2014 by fortune

[bullet boy]

I use SAK on my Rimfire rifles.

[kier]

There is something that a lot of people are overlooking in all of this talk about silencers being quite or noisy. Sound is like camouflage. You might be able to hear or see something but how is that medium interpreted by the listener or viewer. Sound can be affected by the wind direction and other background noise and can disturb game or be ignored as a threat. It can be affected by humidity, pressure and bullet speed and shape. BUT even if your mod appears to the human ear to be quiet then how the target perceives that is entirely different. Anyway the rabbits will all bolt in to ground when the bullet slams into flesh and bone making a crack or splat. What you need for normal field distances up to say 50>100 paces is a slow round.

No new silencer will be that much better than what you already have. A tool is a tool it either does the job or it doesn't. Trust me I'm an engineer. save your pennies and buy the slowest ammo with the money that you would spend to get what you already have.

 

 

 

I thought eley subs were slow are there any that are a specific speed not just sub sonic ?

, that is why im not buying anything until ive used the gun in my field situation a few times and, listening to what is said on here, but if a bullet is slower will the trajectory be not so flat, I suppose there must be a compromise

[Dekers]

 

There is something that a lot of people are overlooking in all of this talk about silencers being quite or noisy. Sound is like camouflage. You might be able to hear or see something but how is that medium interpreted by the listener or viewer. Sound can be affected by the wind direction and other background noise and can disturb game or be ignored as a threat. It can be affected by humidity, pressure and bullet speed and shape. BUT even if your mod appears to the human ear to be quiet then how the target perceives that is entirely different. Anyway the rabbits will all bolt in to ground when the bullet slams into flesh and bone making a crack or splat. What you need for normal field distances up to say 50>100 paces is a slow round.

No new silencer will be that much better than what you already have. A tool is a tool it either does the job or it doesn't. Trust me I'm an engineer. save your pennies and buy the slowest ammo with the money that you would spend to get what you already have.

 

 

 

 

I thought eley subs were slow are there any that are a specific speed not just sub sonic ?

, that is why im not buying anything until ive used the gun in my field situation a few times and, listening to what is said on here, but if a bullet is slower will the trajectory be not so flat, I suppose there must be a compromise

 

 

There are very few specific .22lr sub sonic loads designed to be deliberately slower, and the few available are for pretty specialised tasks! There are some VERY heavy .22lr bullets that may be a little slower, but that is simply a by-product of their weight and size.

 

"Most" sub sonic .22lr is designed to leave the barrel at 1080 or less ft/sec, that is a bit below the speed of sound to allow for altitude/atmospheric conditions which can/does actually change the specific SOS. Also of course to allow a certain manufacturing tolerance...you still get a few that pop!

 

If you are using the gun as a dedicated sub sonic tool the difference between the sound reduction from all the mods available is very small!

 

This lot do some interesting .22lr loads/weights! http://www.tx-at.com/img/catalog/Aguila%20Catalog%202014_lowres.pdf including a monster 60g load that apparently they manage to get up to 950ft sec!

 

[fortune]

Some brands (although sub) have a speed which can in certain circumstanses go a bit near the line. AND every gun is different. this is controled by how tight/loose the round sits in the chamber / lands and other factors previously noted. You could have two guns of the same manufacture with similar serial numbers and they could both differ in how accurate and how they reacted to the same mod. I once had a thousand Remington and they were so loud that I just used them up as barrel warmers at the range and when I was checking zero. My rifle likes RWS and so I bought 5000 rounds from the same batch. BUT like I wrote above there are a lot of other factors that come into play. Most importantly is how the impact sounds.

Edited May 3, 2014 by fortune

[Velocette]

I've used Parker Hale's for years and what happens is that they clagg up with powder reside and dont silence as well as they did. Its easy to clean them out unless they have really got stuck. >> Unscrew the endcap (CAREFULLY) because the threads are fairly fine and start to remove the baffles. They get covered in a fairly hard residue like the chalk in a kettle. Gently tap the outer wall to shock the baffles out. You can soak the whole lot in hot soapy water if you like. It might take a bit of perseverance to get them all out but dont beat it or force rods into the end to beat the baffles out or you will damage them. If & when you get them all out you can remove the shale with a wire brush or knife. The silencer came with a bit of rod that you reassemble the bits on to reinstallthe baffles back into the tube. I hope that this is useful info for you and helps people to save a bit of money.

This is the inner parts of a Parker Hale silencer.

Be carefull when re screwing the end cap as it is a fine thread and easy to cross thread or get scrawled up. use grease or copper slip to help it.

 

 

When its all clean,,a good dousing with welding anti-spatter spray will help to prevent the crud sticking somewhat. I use PBS but they are all similar in effect.

[kier]

 

When its all clean,,a good dousing with welding anti-spatter spray will help to prevent the crud sticking somewhat. I use PBS but they are all similar in effect.

Hi well I finished work and there was a rabbit eating my lawn , just too tired to do anything so had a cup of tea opened the post and thought if he is still there, well he was, opened the kitchen window very slowly took aim and one dead rabbit and very little sound from the gun will be doing a lot more testing though.

Iv'e got some antisplatter and will apply some soon

[Amazed]

I have a 3rd eye mod on mine and it's a little louder than a sak but weighs about half as much. Dinky little thing quite sweet actually.

[bicykillgaz]

I have a 3rd eye mod on mine and it's a little louder than a sak but weighs about half as much. Dinky little thing quite sweet actually.

Are sure it's your moderator your describing Karl?

 

My sako is longer a little thinner very well used but still going strong, and in my opinion just a little quieter than the sak and any others I've tried.