mossberg-operator Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Just on amateur level. Also, looking to buy some tools, like forend cap nut wrench, etc. From where, please? Who would You recommend? Thank You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Its not surprising that more and more Smiths come from an engineering background, I don't know your age but the apprentice route is the norm, guntrade or engineering. Many tools are made rather than bought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Looking at your list of guns that's the black smithing end of gun smithing there are some good books about look for gun smithing with simple hand tools or the book of the English shotgun by Lewis potter Nothing much is made for autos and pumps by hand they usually use factory parts that need minimum fitting when you get to English guns that's a different matter The tools you req ie fore end wrench should be available from a reputable tool supplier some one like Cromwell Tools that's if it is just a c spanner Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 You can get some help from the MidwayUSA youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/MidwayUSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 You can get some help from the MidwayUSA youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/MidwayUSA +1 very good Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 best advice i can give is to mimmick the advice about midways channel, very informative! and also, buy yourself a couple of doggie guns. preferably ones with some small issues. a side by side and a over and under would be a good start. the cheaper the better. pull them apart, see what makes them work, and put them back together. then repeat the proccess. if your mechanically minded, its not much different to working on a vehicle. for tools, most things can be picked up fairly easily. i would recommend a good parralell pinch punch set, both steel and brass, along with a brass headed hammer. a ball pein hammer (not too big!) a set of hollow ground screwdriver tips and a magnetic handle, plus spare bits for adapting/ grinding to fit european side by side screws. magnifying glass is always handy block of wood with several holes of all different sizes drilled into it for dis-assembly (a small offcut of CLS from b&q is perfect) a good quality file set, sharpening stones, blow torch a good vice, preferably one that spins and moves in all directions! a grinding wheel, dremel (not always neccesary...) pillar drill (once again, not always neccesary...) a torch, a lamp and good ambient lighting and most importantly, a solid workspace. you will find that you will end up making tolls and jigs for certain applications, and the annoying thing is, after spending hours making one perfect tool, you'll sometimes only use it once and then it sits in a tub taking up space... everything i have learnt has been via either experience, youtube or occasionally from a london gunsmith on my shoot, but i dont like asking him too much as i feel a bit cheeky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 and on a seperate note, one more piece of advice... please dont go messing with sears on trigger mechanisms unless you are 100% confident that you know what you are doing. i made an awfull mistake that cost me alot of money to put right and in the meantime turned a good over and under into a very unsafe and worthless gun. luckily it was my own, i realised i had messed up before trying it and it got fixed. learn from my mistakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted June 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Looking at your list of guns that's the black smithing end of gun smithing there are some good books about look for gun smithing with simple hand tools or the book of the English shotgun by Lewis potter Nothing much is made for autos and pumps by hand they usually use factory parts that need minimum fitting when you get to English guns that's a different matter The tools you req ie fore end wrench should be available from a reputable tool supplier some one like Cromwell Tools that's if it is just a c spanner Deershooter Hi! Got both books Will check Cromwell Tools. Thx! best advice i can give is to mimmick the advice about midways channel, very informative! and also, buy yourself a couple of doggie guns. preferably ones with some small issues. a side by side and a over and under would be a good start. the cheaper the better. pull them apart, see what makes them work, and put them back together. then repeat the proccess. if your mechanically minded, its not much different to working on a vehicle. for tools, most things can be picked up fairly easily. i would recommend a good parralell pinch punch set, both steel and brass, along with a brass headed hammer. a ball pein hammer (not too big!) a set of hollow ground screwdriver tips and a magnetic handle, plus spare bits for adapting/ grinding to fit european side by side screws. magnifying glass is always handy block of wood with several holes of all different sizes drilled into it for dis-assembly (a small offcut of CLS from b&q is perfect) a good quality file set, sharpening stones, blow torch a good vice, preferably one that spins and moves in all directions! a grinding wheel, dremel (not always neccesary...) pillar drill (once again, not always neccesary...) a torch, a lamp and good ambient lighting and most importantly, a solid workspace. you will find that you will end up making tolls and jigs for certain applications, and the annoying thing is, after spending hours making one perfect tool, you'll sometimes only use it once and then it sits in a tub taking up space... everything i have learnt has been via either experience, youtube or occasionally from a london gunsmith on my shoot, but i dont like asking him too much as i feel a bit cheeky. Hi! Good list to start, just what I was looking for! Thank You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belvoir Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Carl Russell & Co Gunmakers at Hatfield Park run courses on specific aspects of gunsmithing stock finishing action work barrel work etc. usually 1 or two day courses may be worth contacting them to see what course they have coming up next and when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 You can get some help from the MidwayUSA youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/MidwayUSA Only if you want to head line at the Edinburgh comedy festival! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Joking aside an RFD is the first thing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Whatever you do don't watch the Americans on discovery and think its ok to just hack at guns with industrial tools and no brains. Practising on sears its best to start on old air guns, a lot safer than shotguns. Figgy Edited June 19, 2014 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Practising on sears its best to start on old air guns, a lot safer than shotguns. agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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