busa2003 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Evening all, I after a little help digging up some info on a shotgun I have been gifted (long story!!) It is a double barrel 12g, single trigger, ejector stamped with the following Fabrique Nationale Herstal Special steel 2 3/" What does anyone know of these? I don't really get on with it so looking to value at some point and move on Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Fabrique Nationale is the modern day Browning , the special steel part just refers to the steel used to make the barrel , not that it is proofed for steel shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busa2003 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 cool, I cant find anything on them, only Browning or FN (firearms) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorvale55 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) +1 with Fenboy, FN made a brilliant version of the .762 rifle used by armed forces all over the world. The British Army had them, (and may still have a few !!), the rifle was great, I know, I used them. I think they were withdrawn by some EU law because of the calibre or foot/poundage issue. It was always called a "Belgian FN" if it was an original and not a copy. Edited July 4, 2014 by moorvale55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busa2003 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Granted FN made knocked out some rather tasty SLR types. I just want to get some info on the shottie so my local RFD doesn't try to take the mick cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 +1 with Fenboy, FN made a brilliant version of the .762 rifle used by armed forces all over the world. The British Army had them, (and may still have a few !!), the rifle was great, I know, I used them. I think they were withdrawn by some EU law because of the calibre or foot/poundage issue. It was always called a "Belgian FN" if it was an original and not a copy. Think they were withdrawn as they were 7.62 ca, (308 in civvey terms), thoughts at the time was that 5.56 (223) was preferable for 2 main reasons, a, a squaddie can carry more rounds, and b, an enemy hit by a 223 is likely to be incapicated rather than killed with a 308, therefore that ties up 4 or 5 of his mates to look after him. Interestingly the 7.62cal was at one point re introduced as a sniper rifle in semi auto format to combat the longer reach weapons of the Taliban. http://www.eliteukforces.info/weapons/l129a1-sharpshooter/ A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) http://www.browning.com/customerservice/dategun/detail.asp?id=26 Got a feeling that at one point Browning marketed the Miroku 500 side by side, that would have been early 70s. A Edited July 7, 2014 by Alycidon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Photos will help as will the proof marks, is it an OU or SxS? What chokes? What chamber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Fabrique Nationale is the modern day Browning , the special steel part just refers to the steel used to make the barrel , not that it is proofed for steel shot. Is it? I thought FN pre-dated Browning by a good few years! Which European firm did John Browning travel to following the death of his normal American contact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 FN have always made Brownings for the none American markets and own the browning brand with miroku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 If memory serves FN now own Browning , even the American Browning Arms Corporation is a independent subsidiary . F N made a number of side by side guns that are not Browning's but are often mistakenly called so. Early B25 models were only marked as Browning for the US market and were sold under the Fabrique Nationale banner in Europe . I have number 31 in the shop at present , no mention of Browning . More detail is required to give a better comment on the gun you have . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busa2003 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t71/mpadds/9B7FB593-4FA5-4D69-8331-1BE07B127A6B_zpsbp5lri6n.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t71/mpadds/6196AC4E-2799-4D05-A270-1EC193B0E1B6_zpsvz0hkone.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t71/mpadds/626065C1-BA31-4E58-A003-BF1A932285F7_zpswbghpjem.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Looks like a 1951 http://www.browning.com/customerservice/dategun/detail.asp?id=42 IF FN used the browning serialisation Edited July 8, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busa2003 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I can't line up the seriel numbers with anything on the browning site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 26162 is the serial 77J is the model but thats doesn't tally with the Browning site and they didnt prefix the models til 1976 IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busa2003 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hmm confusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hmm confusing Yeah it is I'm afraid proof marks are best for a date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busa2003 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t71/mpadds/1CEEF2D6-E6FA-487E-ADA4-29EF98BB62EE_zpsn4nhjlff.jpg These help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t71/mpadds/1CEEF2D6-E6FA-487E-ADA4-29EF98BB62EE_zpsn4nhjlff.jpg These help? They will help YOU.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busa2003 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hoping they will help someone help me Hoping they will help someone help me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://www.shotguns.se/html/belgium.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busa2003 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hmm the closest on, but not identical, is 1924 > guns not made in Belgium but passed through their proof house. Odd as the barrels are stamped made in Belgium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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