It Has Arrived, Finally (FAC)

[deadeye ive]

It is very course but the finish left is smooth as silk ......... ..........Most engineering suppliers should have some .

 

I have used it to great effect recrowning the odd barrel using a marble with this stuff and metal is removed in next to no time

 

talking thousanths and microns of an inch though .

[kirky640]

grinding compound =no no no

 

just keep it clean and as someone else said rattle a good few rounds throught it and let it bed in

 

and no oil is good as well i just clean slides quick spray with wd40 and wipe away exses spray

because as said the burnt powder from the fired rounds stick to the oil and fowels up slide quickly

 

wincher subs my 10/22 loves them i can empty my 30 shot mag into a target in under 5 seconds and they banned hand guns B)

 

imo the 10/22 is like a slow gin it only gets better with age

 

cheers kirky

[markbivvy]

wincher subs my 10/22 loves them i can empty my 30 shot mag into a target in under 5 seconds

 

with or without a drink mate.

[kirky640]

wincher subs my 10/22 loves them i can empty my 30 shot mag into a target in under 5 seconds

 

with or without a drink mate.

with out always never use a firearm when drunk it burns like mad B) B)

 

 

kirky

[skany]

i used to clean & spray with dry lube

 

still second best by a long way to a bolt gun

 

Andy

[kipper]

Been out again today for more testing trials.

 

Gun is cycleing rounds mutch better now. I have given it a thorough clean and polish, light lubrication wipeing away excess oil.

 

Found ELEY sub sonic good accurate.

 

Winchester Sub's not bad, But they shoot lower than the ELEY's

 

CCI sub's = Not good at all, But my mates 10/22 cycled them fantastick. good at rapid fire :yp:

 

I think it is a case of running the gun in and so far the gun can not be too clean in the receiver/action area.

 

Not so many regrets now

 

kipper

[njc110381]

Glad it's being good for you now, it's really bad when you're unsure of something you've bought! Once you get the hang of what it likes you'll have very little trouble with it. I may get one one day, and if I was allowed a .17 auto, I'd have one even sooner! Look at it this way, if you get one jam per mag it only takes as long to clear it as it does to cycle a bolt rifle anyway

[mossy835]

when my ticket is out in july imputting in for a .17.

[A Sick Old Man]

I have found Winchester Subs the best, but I want to give Lapua a try one day.

 

I would always lube your 10 / 22 bolt, Kipper. I know they get all crappy but its a fast moving part and a bit of slime will reduce wear and will give better cycling.

 

I use Napier Grease brushed on with a small paint brush, I always use a good quality paint brush to clean and oil my rifles and shotguns, it gets in all the nooks and crannies and it is easy to leave a nice smear instead of a flood.

 

I have a tuned trigger, rubber recoil buffer, extended mag release, and I am waiting to get a bolt lock to enable me to fire it without the bolt moving, for those very quiet moments.

 

Its fitted with a night vision scope that I have yet to zero, I have had difficulty in mounting it, but I will get there.

[kipper]

ASOM,

 

Do you take the trigger and bolt assembly out to clean your gun.?

 

I usually do drop a couple of drops of Napier oil on the bolt and then wipe off any excess oil,?

 

I have also had trouble with the magazine sticking and not rotating properly, do you strip and clean your magazine.?

 

TRhank's

 

Kipper

[A Sick Old Man]

I always take the trigger out and the bolt out, I wash it all with Napier gun cleaning spray let it soak all the crud off, then give it all a good going over with a stiff bristled brush.

 

Then clean barrel with Dewey rod and brushes, then blow off all the parts with an air duster can.

 

I would not soak the trigger with anything to sticky as it will gum up, you can get a small bit of plate to help with bolt replacement see this link http://www.rugerfan.com/bdisassembly.html

 

I strip the mag down once in a while, I find those air duster cans are very good for blowing out the grit that always makes then fail, I never oil the mag it just does it no good at all.

 

I bought two Eagle mags from

http://www.rimfiremagic.co.uk/new_products.html

 

They are the dogs nuts and I have never had a jam with them, I used to put CCI high velocity in one, and subs in the other. I now only use subs in my 10/22 as I have a CZ .17HMR for long range stuff.

 

I also put a new cocking lever spring in and that really helped with the jamming and misfeed problem, it was much stiffer than the old one.

 

All the best,

 

Chris

[kipper]

Thanks for the link's chris.

 

What scope do you use on your ruger or any recamendations would be good.

 

Thanks

 

kipper

[A Sick Old Man]

I find it odd that some people will put a scop as powerful as the Hubble Space Scope on a rifle that has an effective range of only 100yds, and thats on a good day.

 

I started with a Nikko Gold Crown 4 X 40, then got a Whitetail Classic 1.5 X 6 X 20 or somethng, it was rubbish

 

I now have a NV scope on it, but I would get a small scope and spend on the quality of glass and not the size, a small Zeiss or Swarzofski second hand will be far better than a new shiney huge green house of a thing. Snag is that quality does not come cheap

 

A mate of mine gets his from E Bay USA and has had some real bargains, I would definatly fit a Weaver rail on your 10/22 and get the scope mounts to match.

 

try looking at these type of stores on E Bay http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Vfirestore

 

They are cheap but will do the job,

 

Chris

[kipper]

The Scopes on that Ebay shop site are unbelievably cheap, But are they any good???

 

You can get a Tasco 6-24X50Range finder Illuminated Reticle for £27 (Buy it now price)

 

Any of you heard of Millet Buck scopes, 3-25X56 AO Med Plex £129. includeing sunshade and mounts.

 

has any of you chaps ever tried any of these cheap scopes,

 

Kipper

[A Sick Old Man]

My mate bought a Millet scope from Hong Kong and I thought it was great for the money, it does the job and its cheap. Exactly the same scope in this country would cost ?150 but he got it for forty quid all in :blink:

 

But they are cheap, you will not get quality without paying more than you payed for your Ruger, a good secondhand Zeiss will set you back ?300 or more.

 

The ball as they say is in your court, just make sure what ever you buy, it must have a graticule sight picture.

 

Good luck :blink:

[njc110381]

I just bought a new Leupold VX-1 3-9x40 for £100, hope it's good! I'll let you know when it gets here :blink:

[deadeye ive]

, but I would get a small scope and spend on the quality of glass and not the size, a small Zeiss or Swarzofski second hand will be far better than a new shiney huge green house of a thing. Snag is that quality does not come cheap

 

Too true :blink: .............We,ve all been there when we did'nt know any better and if you was to line up a load of scopes you would pick the prettiest completely overlooking the quality ones as they look plain and basic. :blink:

[kipper]

Hi chaps,

 

I have just purchased a Simmons Whitetail Classic 3.5-10X50 super night view. :blink: What do you think?

 

Ok its not a Zeiss, leupold or Swarovski but at the moment I can't afford one of those as I have just splashed out over £600 on a Ruger 10/22 and I still need to buy a FAC Air Rifle and Scope :blink:

 

Thaks again for replies

 

kipper

[njc110381]

The Simmons WTC is a pretty good scope for the money. Without spending a lot more I doubt you'll find one to beat it, or even equal it. I only bought the Leupold because it was cheap. I've taken a chance on it coming from the USA, so I'll just have to wait and see if it was a good idea! I have a simmons 3-9x40 on my air rifle, and it's very good at dusk. Good choice :blink:

[kipper]

I forgot to mention that I only paid £131 new, from E-bay Shop. Inc postag.

 

Every where else I looked they are £200 + postage. :blink:

 

So the £70 I saved on this scope can bump up the budget to £300 for the next scope, I might get a Good quality second hand scope for that,

 

Thank's again chaps,

 

kipper :blink:

[njc110381]

Did you say that some of your land is only cleared for FAC air? If you can get a rimmy on all of it, why not just use lower powered rounds where you fell you should?

[kipper]

Did you say that some of your land is only cleared for FAC air? If you can get a rimmy on all of it, why not just use lower powered rounds where you fell you should?

 

Yes mate some of the land I shoot on in lincolnshire is not suitable for rim fire, So the lincolnshire feo says antway. although some of the other land that is passed is not as safe as the land that they denied ??

 

I have a standard 12 ftlb AAS410 whitch is more than capable of dispatching the bunnys at arround 35-40 tards,

 

Kipper

[deadeye ive]

Don't get me wrong ............After 4 years of use I have just sold a Simmons 4 x 12 x 40 pro air scope and the light gathering under lamp or poor light conditions was exceptional and certainly a welcome uncharacteristic of the scope Costs £150 when new but my buddy dougy recently purchased a simmons Atec which cost £284 new and the pro air out performs it hands down in light gathering senario's which disappointed us really ,more so him but I reccommended it .Have Quality contol standards dropped I wander to compete in a very compertitive market with the Japs getting a stronger foothold day by day ............You certainly don't see the TOP europeon manufacturers dropping their prices or standards .

 

It is only since I have been operating with a 8 x 56 Smidt that I sold the pro air to help fund a Leupold VXIII ...Once you've tasted cream it's hard to go back to milk .

[A Sick Old Man]

I Agree with that, I now have a Swarzofski and its well worth the money. Not that your Simmons is **** Kipper, it will do the job well. Bit like an Escort Van versus a Ferrari I guess

 

I would hang on and try and get that land passed for .22 mate, you can use CB caps if you are worried about the bullet bouncing out to danger areas, but you must have .22 solid on your ticket for zeroing in order to possess them. (They have solid bullet) Most tickets just have expanding ammo only, mine has

 

I have a very small rabbit infested field, flat as a billiard table, with a road at one end. I built a platform at the road end ten feet up a tree so as the shots are at a better angle.

Just an idea for you

 

If you are really worried then get a .17HMR. I have not managed to get a richochet off one as yet, I even tried to in a farm yard shooting off concerete toward a large grain trailer, nowt

 

only snag is the crack of the round