CharlieT Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 For the life of me, I can't see why people try to find fault and complicate simple, practical, clear and user friendly legislation. This legislation allows certificate holders and jobbing gunsmithing outworkers to repair, re-blue, re-stock and repair component parts of a shotgun without being bogged down with red tape. Many barrel browners for example work from small workshops, the legislation permits them to do their job without the need to register as RFD's. It also allows the many component part manufacturers to do the same and for the parts to be carried by anyone. Sensible common sense legislation which we all keep asking for, why knock it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 For the life of me, I can't see why people try to find fault and complicate simple, practical, clear and user friendly legislation. This legislation allows certificate holders and jobbing gunsmithing outworkers to repair, re-blue, re-stock and repair component parts of a shotgun without being bogged down with red tape. Many barrel browners for example work from small workshops, the legislation permits them to do their job without the need to register as RFD's. It also allows the many component part manufacturers to do the same and for the parts to be carried by anyone. Sensible common sense legislation which we all keep asking for, why knock it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 In answer to both the above posts and other speculation. I asked BASC this question months ago. Their response was that they had no doubt the Police would seek to prosecute. They didn't go into the legalities, and I didn't ask (but disagreed). I asked this question on Sunday because BASC were closed and I wanted more details on it. Then on Monday I spoke to the FAO. I would welcome any other BASC members to give them a ring and find out exactly what the deal is. From my own research it seems to be a no. I'm going to play it safe and not venture into any grey areas. Thank you for everyones input and thoughts on the matter. BASC should know better, I thought they knew the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hmm, so you are saying that you don't have a 'shotgun' if it is broken down - and a non SGC holder can be in possession of one broken down? Doesn't sound right to me. Separate. If you have all the parts for the shotgun broken down you are clearly in posession of a shotgun. However if you only have some barrels of a section 2 shotgun you are not in the posession of a gun. It is surprising as some have said that this thread is continuing. It is absolutely shocking that a FAO, a local firearms licesing department and BASC have proven that they don't know firearms law. I hope I don't get prosecuted or charged with anything to do with firearms and have to rely on BASC for my defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Separate. If you have all the parts for the shotgun broken down you are clearly in posession of a shotgun. However if you only have some barrels of a section 2 shotgun you are not in the posession of a gun. It is surprising as some have said that this thread is continuing. It is absolutely shocking that a FAO, a local firearms licesing department and BASC have proven that they don't know firearms law. I hope I don't get prosecuted or charged with anything to do with firearms and have to rely on BASC for my defence. How have BASC proven that they don't know firearms law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 BY suggesting to somebody that it is illegal to give a section 2 shotgun barrels to their wife to take to her dad's residence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 BY suggesting to somebody that it is illegal to give a section 2 shotgun barrels to their wife to take to her dad's residence. OK. I've read this thread again and can't see the reference. Can you point it out to me please, sorry if I've missed it but I have tried to see the example that you quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 "Sorry, should have explained that she would be taking them to her house to hand over to her dad who would then put them in his safe. She doesn't have access to my keys or his." THIS^ Post number 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 "Sorry, should have explained that she would be taking them to her house to hand over to her dad who would then put them in his safe. She doesn't have access to my keys or his." THIS^ Post number 4. Please tell me how this shows, as you've posted above - BASC should know better, I thought they knew the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Read post 53: " In answer to both the above posts and other speculation. I asked BASC this question months ago. Their response was that they had no doubt the Police would seek to prosecute. They didn't go into the legalities, and I didn't ask (but disagreed). I asked this question on Sunday because BASC were closed and I wanted more details on it. Then on Monday I spoke to the FAO. I would welcome any other BASC members to give them a ring and find out exactly what the deal is. From my own research it seems to be a no. I'm going to play it safe and not venture into any grey areas. Thank you for everyones input and thoughts on the matter." Basically BASC said the police would try to prosecute the guy for giving his wife some shotgun barrels to take to her dad's house. The right response to the police would have been: BASC: It is not illegal so you can't prosecute the guy. Cease and desist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Basically BASC said the police would try to prosecute the guy for giving his wife some shotgun barrels to take to her dad's house. The right response to the police would have been: BASC: It is not illegal so you can't prosecute the guy. Cease and desist. BASC weren't speaking to the police. They were telling the OP what the police would probably try to do. And we've seen on this thread just how confused so many people are. As it is NOT illegal for the lady to have the barrels, it is unlikely they would win, but I certainly wouldn't want to take the risk of a prosecution with all that means if that's what an organisation with a lot of experience in dealing with the police think is a likely course of events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Still confused, if the wife is taking the barrels to the father in laws cabinet, where is the rest of the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Still confused, if the wife is taking the barrels to the father in laws cabinet, where is the rest of the gun? the op has the rest of the shotgun, he only wants to give her the barrels to drop off at a sgc owners house(fathers) so she is only ever in possession of the barrels, she has no keys to either cabinet also atb Evo ps how many more pages befor ya recon the penny drops :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Give it another 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 if you buy a shotgun with a spare barrel it is still only one shotgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 if you buy a shotgun with a spare barrel it is still only one shotgun Very true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 the op has the rest of the shotgun, he only wants to give her the barrels to drop off at a sgc owners house(fathers) so she is only ever in possession of the barrels, she has no keys to either cabinet also atb Evo ps how many more pages befor ya recon the penny drops :lol: But why doesn't he want his barrells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 off to work or the pub ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJW Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 But why doesn't he want his barrells? Ha, I really don't think its worth going into! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 after 4 pages I really think it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 But why doesn't he want his barrells? he might want his Father who is an expert on metals to re blue them whilst he(the op) who is a master joiner works on the stock,,,? basically I havn,t got a clue but I,m sure the op might come on and let us all know atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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