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Short Gopro from this weekend. Really windy but great to be out.

Didn't get many and shot badly, but still had fun.

Field is criss-crossed by three footpaths, and while setting up a lady dog walker came by, asked me what the dead pigeons were, and then, after I had told her what I was doing, said "Do pigeons eat other pigeons then?" Couldn't make it up.

 

http://youtu.be/uL171YmDcpc

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It never ceases to amaze me the people that just want to Slag off someone that has taken the time and effort to put a video on pigeon watch. We all do things differently, so why not accept it.

Well done MM I say.

I agree , just because you have some decoys out does that mean you are not allowed to shoot the pigeon just infront or just behind them .

Decoying for me is just trying to pull a pigeon in close enough for a shot , it does not have to be hovering directly over the decoys themselves .

 

Thanks for posting the video

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Perhaps it's the perspective of a Gopro, which does make birds appear further away than they actually are. I can confirm all birds were over the decoys. And, even if they weren't I would still shoot if they were in range. I think that is called pigeon shooting.

Nice vid, as you say it appears be the GoPro FOV setting, try using "N" instead of W/SW/M as they all add width and depth, the N settings seems to eliminate the false distance they other settings give.

 

Indeed if you have managed to decoy it within shotgun range then you have achieved what you set out to do irrespective of whether it's far left/right or trying to land 10 yards away.

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It never ceases to amaze me the people that just want to Slag off someone that has taken the time and effort to put a video on pigeon watch. We all do things differently, so why not accept it.

Well done MM I say.

 

 

I agree , just because you have some decoys out does that mean you are not allowed to shoot the pigeon just infront or just behind them .

Decoying for me is just trying to pull a pigeon in close enough for a shot , it does not have to be hovering directly over the decoys themselves .

 

Thanks for posting the video

well said both of you :good:

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unfortunatlly shooting taking high risk shots at pigeons around decoys is one of the main reason that pigeon decoying is much more difficult these days!

even the best shots in the world will miss a higher percentage of these shots.

Mr average will miss more than he hits.

All you are doing is making the birds shy of decoys.

If the bird has foldded its wings and committed to land with the decoys then its time to shoot if not its quiet likely you have a poor hide, wrong location or a poor pattern.

Some will not decoy at all, some are just passing by, Down to your shooting skill if these are taken or not but unless you are 90% sure of a kill then i would wait, queit often these will do a lap round the field join in with another then come in and decoy propperlly.

 

All down to top notch field craft! and patience.

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unfortunatlly shooting taking high risk shots at pigeons around decoys is one of the main reason that pigeon decoying is much more difficult these days!

even the best shots in the world will miss a higher percentage of these shots.

Mr average will miss more than he hits.

All you are doing is making the birds shy of decoys.

If the bird has foldded its wings and committed to land with the decoys then its time to shoot if not its quiet likely you have a poor hide, wrong location or a poor pattern.

Some will not decoy at all, some are just passing by, Down to your shooting skill if these are taken or not but unless you are 90% sure of a kill then i would wait, queit often these will do a lap round the field join in with another then come in and decoy propperlly.

 

All down to top notch field craft! and patience.

:yes::good:

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unfortunatlly shooting taking high risk shots at pigeons around decoys is one of the main reason that pigeon decoying is much more difficult these days!

even the best shots in the world will miss a higher percentage of these shots.

Mr average will miss more than he hits.

All you are doing is making the birds shy of decoys.

If the bird has foldded its wings and committed to land with the decoys then its time to shoot if not its quiet likely you have a poor hide, wrong location or a poor pattern.

Some will not decoy at all, some are just passing by, Down to your shooting skill if these are taken or not but unless you are 90% sure of a kill then i would wait, queit often these will do a lap round the field join in with another then come in and decoy propperlly.

 

All down to top notch field craft! and patience.

I have to disagree with this. You can never be certain with ANY shot. The easiest of chances can end up with a wounded bird that gets away.

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Agreed, we've all missed those easy 'hovering' birds over the decoys.

Point is, as has already been made, all birds were well within range and thus shootable. I don't think for one minute this makes birds decoy shy, certainly not in these parts where there aren't masses of pigeon shooters and also because I would say the pigeon doesn't have a memory that enables it to remember over a long period that it was shot at over some decoys.

I can tell you what the reaction would be of some of the owners/farm managers of the land I shoot over if they stood and watched me let bird after bird go by because it wasn't committing to the decoys.

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I have to disagree with this. You can never be certain with ANY shot. The easiest of chances can end up with a wounded bird that gets away.

my point was its really down to the skill of the person shooting . Obviouslly you are seasoned pigeon shooter just like the Op and know you capabilities and the range of a shotgun!! we all miss the easy and the hard ones! my point was there are to many who rush their shots move to early and often take birds which are on the extreme rather than challenging!

 

I have seen many times trigger happy people out pigeon shooting trying to take the glory shot everytime and wonder why after an hour or 2 they have had 100 shots a handfull in the bag and pigeons wont decoy anymore!.

 

I totally disagree that pigeons only have short term memory , pigeons have more inteligence than alot of people give them credit for.

Hence why they are thriving breed of bird that has adapted to the changes in farming over the last 50- 100 years.

 

My last post was in no way in reference to the original video , It is very difficult to judge distance from a video uploaded onto here.

 

Very fine line between crop protection and a good days shooting.

 

Being a farmer i would much prefer you to come to me after a days pigeon shooting saying you had shot 50 birds for 150 shots than 10 birds for 500 shots.

that is 50 that will not eat my crop tomorrow and all the following days, the other 400 missed will be back in the near future.

 

A gas banger if used properlly will keep pigeons off!!!

 

As said before , to shoot good numbers, often takes good field craft , which is preperatiion, location and patience. Some days it happens some it dont for everyone!

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