hyflier Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I've just bought some Winchester .17 HMR, it was the same price as Hornady and reading the box, it claims a "Clean burning powder" Does this mean my rifle and mod won't get gummed up with the filthy deposits the Hornady leaves behind? Has anyone used the Winchester ammunition and would you like to tell me what your thoughts about it are please? Hornady was available but I've begun to shy away from the red and blue tip following the reports on here, I've had no end of split cases and while I understand this is ok and acceptable, I'm not that comfortable with it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I've just bought some Winchester .17 HMR, it was the same price as Hornady and reading the box, it claims a "Clean burning powder" Does this mean my rifle and mod won't get gummed up with the filthy deposits the Hornady leaves behind? Has anyone used the Winchester ammunition and would you like to tell me what your thoughts about it are please? Hornady was available but I've begun to shy away from the red and blue tip following the reports on here, I've had no end of split cases and while I understand this is ok and acceptable, I'm not that comfortable with it. Thanks. In my 452 it shoots about the same group size but lower and to the right. It's as clean as Hornedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 had to buy winchester last time as they had no hornady in stock, rfd claimed there was some sort of shortage with them ?? havent used any of them yet but ill be happy when they get more red tip v-max back in stock, iv had no problems with them and better the devil you know and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossyoak77 Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I am hoping to give these a go when I get my fac back, hornady are still the ones I buy but would like to give these a try, has anyone on here used federals v shock equivalents these are nigh on impossible to find / source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I am hoping to give these a go when I get my fac back, hornady are still the ones I buy but would like to give these a try, has anyone on here used federals v shock equivalents these are nigh on impossible to find / source i have used the v shock and found them very accurate but like yourself i cant find anyone who stocks them.so will stick with the hornady..never had a problem with them so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted April 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Thank you for the replies, and the for the tip I may have to re-zero My local RFD, Simpsons stock federal, they are more expensive than Hornady (£14.50 for 50) and are apparently loaded by cci? I think it's Federal which are slightly slower than Hornady and Winchester claiming 2530 fps as opposed to 2550 fps; there's a comparison video on youtube which makes for interesting viewing https://youtu.be/ApgWDaSFfKQ learning the Winchester .17hmr ammo is not loaded by cci I was hopeful that there would be no more split cases and a little less scrubbing to get everything clean again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thank you for the replies, and the for the tip I may have to re-zero My local RFD, Simpsons stock federal, they are more expensive than Hornady (£14.50 for 50) and are apparently loaded by cci? I think it's Federal which are slightly slower than Hornady and Winchester claiming 2530 fps as opposed to 2550 fps; there's a comparison video on youtube which makes for interesting viewing https://youtu.be/ApgWDaSFfKQ learning the Winchester .17hmr ammo is not loaded by cci I was hopeful that there would be no more split cases and a little less scrubbing to get everything clean again. The individual manufacturer has little or nothing to do with split cases, that is the whole flawed manufacturing process, which remains exactly similar with all manufacturers. Batch issues and quality control have an effect, but split cases will not go away simply changing to another manufacturer, monitor the ammo over a long period and the odds are the % will come out the same as CCI. As for the powder, well, there are options, and new/cleaner powders are being developed all the time, just look at the massive array available, so it is possible it may be marginally cleaner, but, ALL rimfire is dirty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted April 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 Thanks Dekers, I'll keep an eye on them and see how they perform, I've only managed to fire five of them and it's far too early to make comparisons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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