WinchesterDave Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Well I have finally managed to get my self a nice bit of permission to shoot over I went yesterday for my first trip and managed to get a magpie and shot at 3 pigeons but missed lol went back today and out of 5 and half hours there I fired two barrels at one pigeon there just doesn't seem to be anything....it's a bit demoralising to be frank Is that the norm for most people's permissions or just mine haha?! I am so happy to now be able to take the dog out for a walk with my gun it's ace but it would be nice to have a bit of movement. Any advice at all? also rabbits seem to be there but I haven't seen any yet- droppings about and the crop (I believe spring barley?) Forgive me if that's wrong, have been nibbled all along the edge, so again any advice on how to deal with that would be good Atb WD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy220 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Get up bright and early for the rabbits or go in the last hour or so of daylight and you should see plenty. When the barley is tall enough and the rain causes it to lay down in patches the pigeons should notice it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted June 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Awesome ! Thanks for the response pal 👍 bright and early being just before sunrise ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy220 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 That's probably prime time yeah. But most of my morning shooting starts around 6am. I think on my patch if you get out before the dog walkers scare everything in then you're in for a good bag. Obviously limping generally produces the best results but I like getting out in the sun too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted June 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Okay thank you for the help and advice, is that not a bit early for shotgun though it's all I have I haven't rifle or air rifle unfortunately. Later evening may be better I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Gotta admit that my grounds are pretty barren these days ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshMike Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Okay thank you for the help and advice, is that not a bit early for shotgun though it's all I have I haven't rifle or air rifle unfortunately. Later evening may be better I guess I feel slightly guilty when I start blasting crows with a shotgun at 4.00 in the morning but only briefly, especially if I have a good day. If you are very close to houses you may want to be a little more respectful then me as most of the time I am a reasonable distance from anybody other then the farmer who rarely cares as you are controlling their pests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 one of the farms i shoot for crows when he knows I'm going he shuts his bedroom windows so i don't wake him up.. My thought is if I'm up at 5am shooting crows for him the least he can do is get his asis out of bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I feel slightly guilty when I start blasting crows with a shotgun at 4.00 in the morning but only briefly, especially if I have a good day. If you are very close to houses you may want to be a little more respectful then me as most of the time I am a reasonable distance from anybody other then the farmer who rarely cares as you are controlling their pests. haha fair enough! I'm fairly close to houses so I don't think I'll be up early doors anytime soon but early evening sounds like it could be good:) one of the farms i shoot for crows when he knows I'm going he shuts his bedroom windows so i don't wake him up.. My thought is if I'm up at 5am shooting crows for him the least he can do is get his asis out of bed haha fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) How much reconnaissance have you undertaken? I know when you get a permission the first you want to do is to go and shoot it, but understanding what is happening on the ground will make future visits more fruitful, you only have to read Pigeon Controllers reports to see how important Reconnaissance is. My motto is, go to where the birds are, not where you want them to be. Good luck. Terry Edited June 11, 2015 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 As above , the time to be shooting is when there are plenty to be shot. Its all very nice having a walk out or sitting there for a few hours and only shooting a couple , but ultimately all you are doing is spoiling your chances of a good day . Far better just to ask the farmer to contact you if he has a problem . Of course if you are happy with just the odd one then crack on as you are, but if you want to shoot good bags then leave it alone until that is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Baker boy, Fenboy, thanks for that super advice much appreciated prior to my first trip I did spend a two days looking over the farm and seeing what is happening and I came to the conclusion there just isn't that much about lol when it gets cut I'll re evaluate the land and see what's what because ultimately a big bag would be splendid even if it's 10 or 15 I'd be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Out of curiosity, is there anyway of pulling birds around that are flighting over at all? They are coming over but as they aren't feeding obviously they aren't getting in so 'decoying' is a non starter but if if they came back for a second look? Is that at all possible if that makes sense? wd Edited June 11, 2015 by WinchesterDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Out of curiosity, is there anyway of pulling birds around that are flighting over at all? They are coming over but as they aren't feeding obviously they aren't getting in so 'decoying' is a non starter but if if they came back for a second look? Is that at all possible if that makes sense? wd It depends what crops are on the land and at what stage , if there are decent numbers flying over it should be possible to get some to come for a look at a decoy pattern with a magnet givng movement , of wait for a windy day and shoot them as they flight over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 It depends what crops are on the land and at what stage , if there are decent numbers flying over it should be possible to get some to come for a look at a decoy pattern with a magnet givng movement , of wait for a windy day and shoot them as they flight over. cheers fenboy! Atb Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 cheers fenboy! Atb Dave As a example , I put a post in sporting pictures last week where I shot 66 on a field of sugar beet , I would say 99.9 % of those pigeon had no intention to land on the field I was shooting , they were just flying over it to get to some peas further up the road where I do not have permission to shoot . The vast majority however decoyed very well to the pattern and magnet I had put out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I saw that post! Nice one:) but a great example and the answer to my question in that case is yes lol. Cheers FB, genuinely appreciate the help 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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