NorfolkBoy Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 In the words of Penelope Pitstop "Hayelp!" I managed to get out yesterday to shoot my F3 yesterday for the first time - had a great time - went home and cleaned the gun having broken it down, stock,barrels and forend. Having resassembled it I now find that it wont open fully. The top lever is operating as it should but the barrels hardly drop down - its only exposing half of the top barrel chamber. I stripped it back down into three parts repeatedly but with the same result each time on reassembly. Finally I retreated to the saftey of a bottle of red completely at a loss..... Am I missing something here - I know Blasers are a bit different but ***? No doubt I'll be taking it back to the store but am posting this in case I'm overlooking the bleeding obvious! Thanks Confused in NJ.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Not good! I can't offer help, but I can offer sympathy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 The only thing that may do this is if the ejectors are not in the right place when you assembled the gun. There isn't anything else unless there is a problem internally. I have probably put 2-2500 cartridges through mine since I have had it and it has been faultless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted April 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 The only thing that may do this is if the ejectors are not in the right place when you assembled the gun. There isn't anything else unless there is a problem internally. Hmmmm........ I don't possess the skill or The Force to go looking INSIDE so back it goes....I think the ejector(s) timing is OK judging how fast and far they were flying..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 I have a long history of taking things apart only not to be able to get them back together or to get them back together (but with a handful of spare / optional parts left over). It is for that reason and having regard to the replacement cost of the gun that I took mine to my local gun shop for an annual service. Incidentally, he told me it was a pig with lots of allen key grub screw jobbies and that he wouldn't want to do it next year. Mung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted April 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 I have a long history of taking things apart only not to be able to get them back together or to get them back together (but with a handful of spare / optional parts left over). Mung We might be related...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 I didn't mean the ejector timing I meant the ejectors themselves as they are free floating when the gun is apart. They do not have springs behind them. That said I do not believe you can get the gun back together if they are not right. Definetlyback to the shop with it. I bet simonp is glad he bought a gun from you Mungler after reading your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 I have a long history of taking things apart only not to be able to get them back together or to get them back together (but with a handful of spare / optional parts left over). Mung We might be related...... This is a disease and I have it, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 I didn't mean the ejector timing I meant the ejectors themselves as they are free floating when the gun is apart. They do not have springs behind them. That said I do not believe you can get the gun back together if they are not right. Definetlyback to the shop with it. I bet simonp is glad he bought a gun from you Mungler after reading your post Shhhhh I was going to sell him a bag of "spares" in about a week when his gun breaks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 sometimes my AYA doesnt open properly after a strip down, i have found that it is becuase the foreend isnt on properly, might solve it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 I didn't mean the ejector timing I meant the ejectors themselves as they are free floating when the gun is apart. They do not have springs behind them. That said I do not believe you can get the gun back together if they are not right. Definetlyback to the shop with it. I bet simonp is glad he bought a gun from you Mungler after reading your post Shhhhh I was going to sell him a bag of "spares" in about a week when his gun breaks.... All working perfectly as of Sunday thanks, LOL. *mutters under breath and goes to examine gun VERY carefully.....* ;-) Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 NorfolkBoy, Did you get it sorted? If so did they tell you what it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 NorfolkBoy, Did you get it sorted? If so did they tell you what it was? I've not had time to take it back to the store - will hopefully make it over there tomorrow. As soon as I know I'll post the diagnosis and cure..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I have seen a similar problem on a nearly new F3 a small grub screw near the base of the breech had come loose and unwound ever so slightly and was just fouling the barrels be interested to hear what your problem turned out to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 You didn't by chance touch the trigger did you? If the bottom barrel has fired the pin could protrude into the chamber and this will stop the gun opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted April 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 I made it over to the store on Friday for the 'smith to look at the F3 and all is well . He dry fired it on snap caps several times and it opened,closed and ejected with no problems. Blaser F3's question as to whether I'd pulled the trigger might be valid - in truth I don't honestly know - I don't use snap caps and therefore I never consciously dry fire the gun. The gunsmith said that the F3 can be safely dry fired due to in-line springs (or something to that effect) To be honest I was feeling a bit under the weather and needed to get to another appointment so didn't pursue the technicalities, but we agreed that it was better to errr on the side of caution rather than simply apply brute force and hope for the best. End result is that the gun is fine but I had a temperature of 103 for three days..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Glad you got it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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