DanWalker Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 Just out of interest what is the cost of re-sleeving a gun that has previously been sleeved? Presumably a gun which was done the 'old-fashioned' soft-soldering way could be redone with TIG welding and the join be made invisible? I guess that the difference would largely be aesthetic rather than functional as any sleeved gun would have had to pass proof but a good gun badly sleeved loses a lot of value in comparison to a good gun well sleeved, if you see what I mean. Cheers, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) dont think you could leagally TIG weld and silver solder...you would have to TIG first...if you did that then the solder wouldnt run into the rest of the sleeve insert....then you would have to silver solder the ribs and the rest, and the coeficient of expansion would be different....ontop of that TiGing the barrells would (cause of the high heat) would change the nature of the metal matrix and you would create a HAZ...(heat affected zone)............thus introducing a weak spot ....dont think it would be done..................however well a gun is sleeved if you take the forestock off ,there is no hiding...there in big bold letters would be the words SLEEVED.....all sleeves should be done to a good standard.....but sometimes it is the blueing or blacking that is not good....and it can become apparant sometimes if the metal on the sleeve and the block are slightly different..the colouing will take differently to each metal............ i am no gunsmith...but i have seen good and bad and i think i know what can and cant be done Edited July 31, 2015 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 Ditchman obviously is more aware of the practicalities of having done what you want than me, as most of what he said is far too technical for my little grey cells, but East Grinstead Guns in West Sussex do 'invisible' resleeving including blacking and proof from £950 excluding VAT, if that helps. You would have to factor in the cost of courier to and from them. Cannot however comment on resleeving an already re sleeved gun, but perhaps they may be able to advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 Sleeving a sumwhat misleading term, basically new tubes fitted to the old barrel ends, linings was once done by teague but understand now stopped was ream out old barrels and fit in new tubes so on old damascus barrels you still had the great looks, unfortunatly the glue between the old and new often failed with hot and cold guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 dont think you could leagally TIG weld and silver solder...you would have to TIG first...if you did that then the solder wouldnt run into the rest of the sleeve insert....then you would have to silver solder the ribs and the rest, and the coeficient of expansion would be different....ontop of that TiGing the barrells would (cause of the high heat) would change the nature of the metal matrix and you would create a HAZ...(heat affected zone)............thus introducing a weak spot ....dont think it would be done..................however well a gun is sleeved if you take the forestock off ,there is no hiding...there in big bold letters would be the words SLEEVED.....all sleeves should be done to a good standard.....but sometimes it is the blueing or blacking that is not good....and it can become apparant sometimes if the metal on the sleeve and the block are slightly different..the colouing will take differently to each metal............ i am no gunsmith...but i have seen good and bad and i think i know what can and cant be done Ditchman , I do not think you full understand what "sleeving" entails . There is no silver solder and if "re-sleeving" you would be fitting new tubes so there is not a problem . Dan see my PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) i stand corrected....having done some research i see im way behind the times...and there is a company that does TIG welding of tubes... Edited August 1, 2015 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) Entwistle guns are about the cheapest google them Deershooter Edited August 1, 2015 by deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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