spinach Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Well two really. So the story goes I've bought and fallen for an amazing springer!! She is biddable and honest!!! She is cautious to the point of being nervous around our chickens and rooster(he's a rhode island so I can use the American ) and is not interested in our sheep. So hurray so far. Fantastic eye contact and comes back. Heeling is beginning to come etc. The chap who had her gave me a check cord and said use this just give it a real pull once and shell soon stop creeping etc. I'm yet to do this as she really is sensitive. How hard do people pull these long nooses ? What DVD would help me along? Cheers John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) What is the check cord for exactly? Is she creeping from a stay? If so that's usually a matter of insecurity and not being taught it properly Or do you mean a slip lead... Edited August 14, 2015 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinach Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 It's a long 12' slip lead. I've no intention of garrotting her or loosing her confidence. She's creeping I'm in no hurry as she shows all the signs of wanting to please I was just bemused at the instructions were pull as hard as you can !! Thanks for replying . Hope alls going well with the menagerie!! John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) So is she pulling a bit on the lead? 12' sounds an awfully long slip lead not to mention a pain in the behind to have to hold lol Yes all good here thank you very much Edited August 14, 2015 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 You mean running in to the fall? If so the other way is to set things up so she gets beaten to the fall every time unless she is sent. Two ways 1 use an assistant 2 stand infant of the dog and throw a short way to the side. In the second you can walk back to the dog to send it. Work required and patience if the above is the case. Honestly I can't see any great use in a check lead for anything but chasing upshot quarry or getting a pointer to hold point, maybe bolting from heel one a std slip is released Creeping is generally leaving the drop or stay if you like to follow the boss.can't see a long lead being of any value in curing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinach Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Thanks, Ive just lost my answer, into cyberspace! Her training is coming on, my real problem is clean land , woodland encroaches most fields and I've never seen so many squirrels as this year! She's cautious. The cord was testing with livestock, keen on sheep very wary with chickens!!!!! Mind you I am with the cockerel . I think it'll get consigned to the "keep ,it might come in usefull one day draw" John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Generally i'd associate creeping with sit/stays esp with spaniels on there bellies. Mibee trying a variation on 'placeboard training' might help if thats the problem. Basically sitting ur dog on a raised wooden platform (1 shooting mags trainer was using kids hula hoops, but even a pathway, small burn, divide between short/long grass) basically anything that is a mental and/or physical barrier for the dog so it is less incline to creep over it. Always go back to it and plenty of praise (even treats) if it sits still Only way a check cord would stop creeping from a sit if doubled round a tree/obsticle behind the dog so pulling dog back to where it was, be a pain to set up and mibee not best if u already have a sensitive dog Depending on ur dogs age/stage u don't need grass or even cover to train a lot of basic obedience and retrieving, 1 famous trainer trains all his young dogs in the car park to start off obedience and retrieving even basic directions/handling before going onto very short grass. As others have said check cords more to steady an unsteady dog and a pain for getting tangled up, usually connected to a collar so cannae choke a dog if it tangles while hunting (well i've always made my home made washing line 1's like that) Ps Is there not an auto save on this? Know i've lost stuff a few times bofore but manged to find it saved on here, not entirely sure how i find it thou Edited August 15, 2015 by scotslad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinach Posted August 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Thanks scotslad, I'm working her in a small paddock she's good but not yet at the age to push things. Maybe the post will turn up somewhere else!! Cheers John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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