Tomo-1 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) I met Major Coats in about 1984 when I was on a Gamekeeping course in Fordingbridge. All I remember was that he was a real gent, even having time for a young lad (me) learning the ropes and asking stupid questions. I couldn't quite work out what a "de-coy" was until later the penny dropped! Edited December 7, 2015 by Tomo-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbk Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I just found this Archie vid on the tube: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 I have the video of Archie and Jackie somewhere but no video player to watch it on now! I had an original 1960's signed copy of Pigeon Shooting but as usual, a 'friend' failed to return it once read but I do have a 1970's copy......absolutely spot on in its day. My copy of Archie's hide poles are languishing in the garage due to the weight, 35 years on they are still as good as new. I corresponded with Archie when I was setting up my Gamedealer business and always found him a proper gent, in the same school as Richard Walker of angling fame. The world has moved on from Archie's day, so many changes in the countryside and land usage by other 'recreational' groups that have put pressure on our own activities, but several things still ring true from his writing. The first is his mantra of reconnaissance, reconnaissance, reconnaissance. Watching at different times of the day, watching which way the wind is blowing that effects the birds when they leave their home wood and watching the birds behavior when they approach the field. Like many other pigeon shooters, I spend more time looking than shooting! His second was his thoughts of ''Think like a pigeon'', as in, where would you prefer to feed in a strong, cold wind? What food will give the best return for energy spent and where is a quite spot away from disturbance. There are now many more pigeon shooters about than in his day, and as his book was the first real 'how to' instruction to a successful day, he helped instigate this! Now there are not many farms that I shoot over that do not have other shooters looking to shoot pigeon there, many setting up in the hope of a few birds rather than wait for them to build up, with the right wind direction to make a decent bag. For me, Archie Coats, the Major, will always be the original pigeon shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator SKB Posted December 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I have several books on the subject, one of my favourites is Pigeon Shooting by Richard Arnold I have a first edition of this book signed 1958, a great book and another one I like is Shooting Wood Pigeon by A.E.B Johnson 1961, this one not signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator SKB Posted December 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I just found this Archie vid on the tube: I remember watching this on Channel 4 when it was broadcast, I still have a VHS Tape of Archie Pigeon shooting with John Batley. Not a bad video if you still have a VHS player of course!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I remember watching this on Channel 4 when it was broadcast, I still have a VHS Tape of Archie Pigeon shooting with John Batley. Not a bad video if you still have a VHS player of course!! An excellent video. You can buy the whole series of 'Jack's Game' on DVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 An excellent video. You can buy the whole series of 'Jack's Game' on DVD. The Grouse moor featured in the programme was on the Lancs./Yorks borders. I shot there on a few occasions, before the 'Jacks Game' series was made. I can recall grouse coming back onto the moor, whilst pickers up were collecting birds from the previous drive. It was only a small moor and bags rarely exceeded 100 but it holds some very happy memories. I later met Jack Charlton when picking up behind him on a small Pheasant shoot, we had a good natter about that moor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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