Continental Shooter Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Hi Chaps, Anyone heard of this powder? any particular thoughts? If anyone's tried it, what recipe did you use? Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 It's not a ready available powder it's for commercial use only however Hull cartridge use it in an amazing amount of loads as do express Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 I got some via my club from peter lawman in place of AS he couldn't supply . Obviously that option went sometime ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Mr Smith, did you reload it with the same recipe? Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Continental shooter, if it's any help d20 data is given on nobels website but not the d20 se, probably not a good idea to use AS recipe perhaps use the d20 data and the services of the proof house, why the interest in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Mr Smith, did you reload it with the same recipe? Cheers, Peter Lawman provided a printed sheet giving two or three loads for the powder http://www.nobelsport.it/public/pages/ENG/schedapol.asp?ProdottoID=553&FamigliaID=0 I've used it for launching 7/8 oz Lee slug,nearly out of it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Continental shooter, if it's any help d20 data is given on nobels website but not the d20 se, probably not a good idea to use AS recipe perhaps use the d20 data and the services of the proof house, why the interest in it? Just coz it's new and i want to do some tests; usually i start from a semi known recipe to develop a good one that suits me but in this case the lack of data kinda threw me off. You know i am not too keen on factory published loads as the different batches can throw up very different data...believe it or not and with Vectan being one of the most inconsistent powders in this respect... i would be careful Also, up here it's impossible to find a curier to get the shells down to Birmingham.... BASC advised of one carrier which they were sure of... but i've yet to hear back from them so, for now i'm stranded in Scotland with no way of proofing my loads (hence the research for a trusted load) Driving down to Birmingham (5hrs / 300 miles) is also not an option for test runs...it'll cost me more than blowing guns up LOL Thanks Mr Smith, i will investigate further before giving it a go Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Continental shooter, if it's any help d20 data is given on nobels website but not the d20 se, probably not a good idea to use AS recipe perhaps use the d20 data and the services of the proof house, why the interest in it? hi mr b and continental shooter word has probably got out on here that I have just bought 10 tons of vectan powders well I bought 5 ton d20se and 3 ton of as 1 ton of a1 and 1 ton of a0 the d20 on the proof data from france was at 1.47 on 28 gram I made some plastics on 1.45 32 gram with proof on 6 shots to 399 and pressure of 590 with exc deviations took 100 on my travels ended up in a wood near Northampton with some good lads and was killing flighting pigeons dead on 2.7 mm shot at a very good 40 to 45 yards up the barrels absolutely spotless barrels like mirrors making fibre this weekend will make report on here one hell of a powder thanks george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 George, What's the reloading range for this powder? Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Driving down to Birmingham (5hrs / 300 miles) is also not an option for test runs...it'll cost me more than blowing guns up LOL Hi Continental Shooter. Yes I know the problem all to well but I have 600 miles. Thus I use published data mostly American so US powder works out cheaper than testing in Birmingham. Good data for shotgun with Euro powders is quite limited and if you want lead buckshot or steel data well I have given up I'm lucky to have some Steel, Blue Dot and Longshot powder and I see 800X and HS 6 are available and so is good data. If you find a courier please put details on here or PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Pull apart any Hull pro -one , Hull soverign , express power blue, express supercomp , Hull DTL 300 ,Hull Sporting 100 and you will have your data there are probably 100's more as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 George, What's the reloading range for this powder? Cheers, George, What's the reloading range for this powder? Cheers, George, What's the reloading range for this powder? Cheers, ill test carts 10 pounds 10 shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted April 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Hi Continental Shooter. Yes I know the problem all to well but I have 600 miles. Thus I use published data mostly American so US powder works out cheaper than testing in Birmingham. Good data for shotgun with Euro powders is quite limited and if you want lead buckshot or steel data well I have given up I'm lucky to have some Steel, Blue Dot and Longshot powder and I see 800X and HS 6 are available and so is good data. If you find a courier please put details on here or PM me. I'm trying hard for the courier man, TNT used to do it but now seems they do it seldom... For good, up to date data on euro powders (assuming you can find any decent B&P or NSI) you'll need to go on to Italian forums; they have sections with up to the minute tests and some steel (is mandatory for waterfowl in Italy as well)...but the problem is that you won't find most of the powders they use up here. Exceptions been the 800xss, HS6, Tecna and PSB1 ....still good start but i too prefer to have a wonder on US forums....far more advanced and experienced although tests are run pretty seldom over there; powders are far more consistent than Vectan, Maxam or ,recently, B&P so.... there isn't a real need to test. Even if you experiment; with a bit of physics & ballistic knowledge you can easily figure out what the pressure would be and even if you only run pattern+speed test, you get a pretty good picture of what you have loaded George: no aswer mate on the range; think your phone was playing up LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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