JRDS Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) I have shot for years with a 30 inch RH 687 EELL 12 Gauge Field FC for Pigeons and shot well with it even though I am LH. My daughter recently needed a £1000 deposit for a new car which I didn't have in the bank so I sold it to fund that and replaced it with another cheaper Beretta but this time a 32 inch back bored LH Sporter. I use it with felt wad 30 grm 6's but I dont appear to shoot as well with it as I did with my last gun (same choking). Have been out 6 times with it recently and 4 of those times it has been very windy and the birds have been jittery so hard to come to a definite conclusion but my averages are definitely down and I have missed some real sitters (not literally). It shoots to the point of aim. What I would like to ask is could the visual leads required be different between the two lengths of barrel 32 / 30 and could the change to a LH gun cause an issue if I am used to the sight picture of a RH gun even though on both they seemed to fit me fine with me looking straight down the rib? Maybe it is just the handling difference that will take some time to get used to, was hoping someone else might have made a similar change with similar issues who could advise. Might seem daft questions but I am perplexed, the drops at comb and heel are exactly the same on both 35 / 50. My 'formal' Game gun is an old RH 687 Beretta 20 bore 28 inch and I shoot just as well with that as the 30 inch EELL again with the same drops. I use the 20 for Game because we do more walking than shooting and it is a delight to carry and shoot but not great for a lot of shells in a T shirt on a busy Pigeon day plus the cartridges are nothing like £4.50 a box for the 12 bore Express Power Pigeons I use for the same. Edited October 5, 2016 by JRDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 I have long thought that every time you change your gun your scores go to **** Stick with the new one and in a few weeks all will improve ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Which is your dominant eye? Changing from a r/h gun to a l/h one I would say would effect your shooting, espec if you are right eye dominant even though you are normally left handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted October 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Thanks Gents. Left eye dominant just always managed with RH guns as they have been bought SH and LH are thin on the ground but had the opportunity of a LH gun when I was looking so took it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 I think the only thing to do is to pattern plate it... several times, check your head position, shoot the plate, see where it's all going. Do both barrels etc, then try a few clays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Broke my gun on a clay shooting once (strait) had to use my sons(rh) With the gun shouldered he could see the gun pointing across me the amount of lead I had to give on a l-r crossing target was mad and very difficult to judge Add to that the fact that I shoot a strait gun it shows how much difference it makes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 How can you say they both fit when a cast on and cast off gun have very different dimensions the bend may be the same but the cast is different. You've learnt to shoot (a potentially) ill fitting gun now you've got a different fitting and maybe still ill fitting gun and you've not learnt to adjust. Personnally I'd go and see someone who truly understands Gunfit and get them to have a look. If your close to me I'll happily take a gander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted October 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 How can you say they both fit when a cast on and cast off gun have very different dimensions the bend may be the same but the cast is different. You've learnt to shoot (a potentially) ill fitting gun now you've got a different fitting and maybe still ill fitting gun and you've not learnt to adjust. Personnally I'd go and see someone who truly understands Gunfit and get them to have a look. If your close to me I'll happily take a gander. Thanks you are not very close but the Yorkshire Gun Room is so I may well have a trip there. Will take it up Kelbrook also and give it a good go on the Clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Well I took it up to Kelbrook on Friday afternoon and screwed in the tighest chokes it came with using 3/4 in the first barrel. I shot 75 birds and hit most of them so it looks like its just a case of getting used to it. Thx for all the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie12342003 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 i have found its mostly in your head when you change to a new gun as i say i shoot a 30 inch 325 12 gauge and a 26inch auto and to me both shoot the same ie i hit the clays cleanly i have had the guns for 12 years now before i had sbs and when i got the 325 it felt weird untill i got used to it keep at it it will be like second nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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