Daveo26 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) I work in pest control, I know the best practice for using break back traps designed to kill rodents is to check them regularly At least once a day has always been bounced about. I don't dispute that. However. I can't find the correct piece of legislation where this is set out as law. Iv looked at the wildlife and countryside act 1981 And various other bits of legislation. No where can I find "you have committed an offence if you fail to check a trap every 24 hrs" I'm talking purely about break back traps designed to kill rats and mice. Not live traps. Can anyone point me to the legislation that gives a specific time to check traps. My thoughts are now, if I left a trap for 48 hrs and it caught nothing. Iv committed no offence. If I left a trap for 48 hrs and it killed a rat stone dead by crushing it's skull at any point in that 48 hrs Iv committed no offence If I left a trap for 48hrs and it caught a rat by its tail or limb at any point Iv caused unnecessary suffering to that animal and have committed an offence. I totally support the idea that as often as possible and at least once a day is best practice. I'm not looking for a loop hole here, I just want to confirm what's a legal requirement. Hope someone can help. Cheers Dave Edited January 23, 2017 by Daveo26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I did my commensal rodent course last week and the instructor told me the check every 24hrs only applies to fenns etc. Apparently it doesn't apply to the giant mouse trap versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Have a look here. Might be out of date, but they recommend twice daily: www.ufaw.org.uk/.../guidance-on-humane-control-of-rodents-feb2509v19.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I did my commensal rodent course last week and the instructor told me the check every 24hrs only applies to fenns etc. Apparently it doesn't apply to the giant mouse trap versions? Yep, the break back (giant mouse traps) are the ones I'm talking about. Also that type aren't subject to the same humaneness legislation that the like of fenn traps are. Mind boggles, a fenn copy all metal made In China can't legally be used to kill a rat but a cheap plastic trap made in China can?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Have a look here. Might be out of date, but they recommend twice daily: www.ufaw.org.uk/.../guidance-on-humane-control-of-rodents-feb2509v19.pdf Yes they recommend twice daily. It's best practice but it does not say you must check twice daily by law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 You don't have to check humane lethal traps daily. That is just some BS that is being thrown about but a couple of mole trapping types. I leave rat traps and mouse traps down for a week at a time. There is also no legislation that I know of that says you need to check Fenns either. Live catch yes, but if it kills humanely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchell Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 You don't have to check humane lethal traps daily. That is just some BS that is being thrown about but a couple of mole trapping types. I leave rat traps and mouse traps down for a week at a time. There is also no legislation that I know of that says you need to check Fenns either. Live catch yes, but if it kills humanely.... Correct, you do not need to check kill traps daily. I check and record mine every Monday, in the case that I do have an activation I need to check the activated trap for the following three days to ensure there is no infestation. The more activation you have the more you need to check them, this is only to keep killing them and not to let any ones through due to the trap being out of use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Yep, the break back (giant mouse traps) are the ones I'm talking about. Also that type aren't subject to the same humaneness legislation that the like of fenn traps are. Mind boggles, a fenn copy all metal made In China can't legally be used to kill a rat but a cheap plastic trap made in China can?? The Spring Trap Approval Order applies to clones of approved traps so you can use copies mate. Edited January 27, 2017 by Prospero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 No it doesn't It applies to copies that are made to the same standard and have been tested and proved equally effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 That's what I said. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrol Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Now that's sorted. What about glueboards. Edited February 2, 2017 by Patrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 It's a sticky subject. What do you want to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 It's a sticky subject. What do you want to know? Ha sticky, very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomdhu Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 The Spring Trap Approval Order applies to clones of approved traps so you can use copies mate. In Sect 2,(1) (b) STAO states..... any spring trap which is equivalent in all relevant respects to a spring trap of a type and make specified in any entry in Column 1 of the Schedule. The copies being sold DO NOT comply with this as they are not equivalent. They may appear to be visually similar however they are not equivalent - particularly in spring force which influences the speed and force of impact. All the copies I have come across had much weaker springs. Another difference is the copies are not brass-on-brass triggers. Also the anchor chains are differnet.etc , etc The key point is "all relevant respects" . Because they are not equivalent then they are illegal. Cheap maybe, but not cheerful and certainly not legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 So you are saying they are not legal because they are not strong enough in the springs? So that is a manufacturing defect... Original (ie not copies) would likewise be illegal if they didn't have strong enough springs, so it isn't the fact they are copies, its the fact they are defective... I have some copies of Fenn MkIV, and they are just as strong as originals, and have brass on brass triggers. But then that would make them legal wouldn't it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 If the traps are approved copies such as the springer no. 4 or solway no. 4 they are legal. Or is made to exactly the same standard as an original Fenn they are legal If the copy is a nasty Chinese version made with substandard materials, they are not legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.