Chris B123 Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 I have got to replace a water main into a house. The regs say it must be a minimum of 750mm down not a problem on the run from the stopcock to the house, but where it enters the house and comes up in the kitchen due to the depth of concrete it would be very difficult. I have seen a product called insuduct, it's just a 100mm outer pipe with a insulated insert, would it be possible to use this for the bit that enters the house and not have to dig down 750mm. I have tried asking the waterboard, but they said ask the inspector when he comes to check it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob525 Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Yes thats fine ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Thanks Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 We used this in the same situation Chris, Inspector was fine with it and didn't even give it a second look. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Scobydog, did you use the groundbreaker box or just the flexible pipe with the insulation inserts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Just the flexible pipe with insulation Chris, the inspection guy was here literally less than 1 minute. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Thanks Scobydog, I will carry on and do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Are you guys replacing your own watermain then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, Lord Geordie said: Are you guys replacing your own watermain then? Yes, only out to the edge of the property though, then the water company does the final connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 40 minutes ago, Chris B. said: Yes, only out to the edge of the property though, then the water company does the final connection. hello, if possible get them to replace the stop cock, i presume your old pipe to your house was galvanised steel or the old black plastic, and a old stopcock, try and get one done in brass as those with a plastic hand turn are not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, if possible get them to replace the stop cock, i presume your old pipe to your house was galvanised steel or the old black plastic, and a old stopcock, try and get one done in brass as those with a plastic hand turn are not good If its the stopcock in the house, then its your responsibility, if its the one in the road then its down to the water company. The one in the house is not hard to change if you can get to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Chris B. said: If its the stopcock in the house, then its your responsibility, if its the one in the road then its down to the water company. The one in the house is not hard to change if you can get to it. hello, yes i know chris i put in 100s of stop taps in on residents water mains, then we allowed 1 yard in to connect to new pipe, most stop taps are in the footpath or verge, not many were in the road around the vale, Wallingford even had old lead pipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Chris B. said: Yes, only out to the edge of the property though, then the water company does the final connection. Thanks for that! Interesting to know I can do it myself if needed! Mine is a 30 feet through the garden then a further 25 foot under the floor in the house! It will be a nightmare, but if I can do it myself it will save a small fortune! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Pigeonpopper, sorry I miss read your post, I thought you needed your's replaced. This one I am doing is the old galvanised pipe but its had a water meter fitted so its a plastic one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 I did my own, dug to 750mm, laid the new pipe on sand, had to dig under 2 garden walls in the process, put a new brass stopcock on the inside of the house, then the utilities finally came after @ 3 months to connect to the main on the footpath. Other than the initial inspection they didn't put a foot on my drive, this was to replace lead pipe. Most quotes I had were @ £1500, so a massive saving doing it yourself. We were sent a letter and diagram out explaining what to do, but I think you can also get it online. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, Chris B. said: Pigeonpopper, sorry I miss read your post, I thought you needed your's replaced. This one I am doing is the old galvanised pipe but its had a water meter fitted so its a plastic one. hello, no worry chris, that Insuduct looks a handy bit of kit, was not about in my time on Thames Water, 3 hours ago, Lord Geordie said: Thanks for that! Interesting to know I can do it myself if needed! Mine is a 30 feet through the garden then a further 25 foot under the floor in the house! It will be a nightmare, but if I can do it myself it will save a small fortune! hello geordie, is that to the rear of property where your mains pipe comes up in the kitchen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 13 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, no worry chris, that Insuduct looks a handy bit of kit, was not about in my time on Thames Water, Yes, through the rear garden, under the living room then staircase and into the kitchen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Lord Geordie said: Yes, through the rear garden, under the living room then staircase and into the kitchen! hello, if you have a side way footpath around your home i would redirect a new pipe that way into kitchen, then you could fit the Insuduct, if your intending to live there many years i would put new pipe in pea gravel, save flints and sharp stones from pipe damadge Edited April 9, 2018 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 It's terraced unfortunately! So I would have no option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 10 hours ago, Lord Geordie said: It's terraced unfortunately! So I would have no option! hello LG, AH that may be all you can do is renew up to the foundations and hope for no leak under the property, you might be lucky and find the pipe has been put in ducting, but if not the case it may pay to put a stop tap inline just in case, do you know if the feed pipe is plastic or galvanised steel pipe? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 It's circa 1968 so assume it's steel, digging down then punching through the foundation isn't a prob if I even need to do it! It's just a once in a lifetime job if done correctly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Lord Geordie said: It's circa 1968 so assume it's steel, digging down then punching through the foundation isn't a prob if I even need to do it! It's just a once in a lifetime job if done correctly! hello, you will just need a galvanised compression fitting the size for the pipe/ brass stop tap with a long galvanised nipple one side that the compression fits, and a brass or galvanised nipple to poly pipe fitting with the new plastic pipe, then denso tape over what galvanised pipe showing and fittings, a length of 6 inch plastic pipe cut a V to fit over stop tap and a plastic stop cock box, so if ever need to repair kitchen pipes you can shut off, make a long steel stop cock key and keep in safe place, use PTFE tape on threads, i prefered our plumbers mate or thread compound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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