baikiel boy Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Hi all , I'm about to start on restoring the stock on 12g Hushpower (single barrel -Pedreti ) the finish is laquer ? French polish ? There are a few dents and scratches in it .How do i use hot iron to raise dents,i think i could mix up some shellac flakes with meths but what about colour match? Any advice would be much appreciated. Regards Baikiel boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 BB Im no restoration specialist, but I assume that you have rubbed the stock down to bare wood. To raise the dents in the wood you will need a very hot iron and a cloth that has been soaked in clean water, and the wrung out, to leave the cloth quite damp. Place the cloth over the damaged are, and apply the hot iron. It may take several attempts and may not work, it depends on the severity of the damage. I would not french polish a stock. Either get some stock oil, follow the instructions and use some elbow grease, or apply a good quality polyeurethane varnish. I have once used Spinaker yaght varnish to good effect. The above is quite a bit of work, and is only really worth it if the gun is special. Most people can spot that a stock has been refinished and often suspect the worst. Keep us posted as to what you do. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baikiel boy Posted March 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Hi Webber, Thanks for reply, I've not touched stock as yet .Trying to get some opinions before doing so . I did do an oil finish on an a.y.a. once did'nt turn out to bad . Hushpower shows some " chipping " in area's by the butt plate so ican see laquer or french coat is quite thick .I don't want to get to involved by going back to scratch,as you say not worth all that trouble,lets see if some one maybe has some expertise to pass on . It maybe of use to someone else Best Regards baikiel boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Hammergun does a lot of restoring, he would certainly know what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 If you want to raise the dents by steaming you will have to strip it as the steaming process will damage/dull the varnish around the area that has been treated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammergun Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Only have experience in oiled stocks. My guess is that it is not all that old. Could be an acrylic lacquer -they are pretty durable. I have a 9mm garden gun and the stock on that is an oil-based lacquer. Shellac stock polish is likely to have some linseed oil content in it for durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 The stock is probably finished with polyurethane if so you can touch it in but dent raising will require sanding back to bare wood as an afternote if anyone oil finishes a stock try Napier stock oil it is brilliant. I wish I knew what is in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammergun Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 Napier stock oil it is brilliant. I wish I knew what is in it? Probably blend of boiled linseed oil, tung oil and oil of alkanet - That's what I use. Wouldn't use polyeurathane varnish - tends to get affected by oils and cleaners. French polish is too easily scratched and affected by the wet. Hard acrylic or a traditional oil-based (i.e. not synthetic) yacht varnish would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baikiel boy Posted March 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Hi all , Thanks to everyone concerned for their input.Looks like the easy way out, leave as is , or "touch up". Maybe coloured lacquer , or coloured varnish .,it dosn't seem worthwhile to fetch down to bare wood etc. I'll see what i can find suitable in these Best Regards Baikiel boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamo Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 The stock on my Rapid is in need of being refinished, I want to have a go myself, could someone explain how to do it and what with? I like the sound of the Napier stuff, but what about sanding and applying the oil? and how many coats of oil etc? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammergun Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Assuming your stock is Walnut.......... Take your stock off the metalwork. Be careful not to take too much offf where the wood is flush with the metal or the metal will end up standing proud when you have finished. I prefer aluminium oxide cloth to paper as it is more flexible and much easier to use on uneven surfaces without changing the features of the wood. You can tear it into strips or squares to get to those difficult places. It is worth spending the extra to get a good finish. Start off with a fairly coarse grade cloth (120 - 180 grade) to remove the remains of the previous finish. Once you have taken the marks out and the last trace of lacquer has gone, use a finer grade (240) until the marks from the coarser grade have gone, then use a finer grade, then finer again (320). Wet the stock, allow to dry and rub down. Repeat this several times until the water will not raise the grain anymore. Finish off with medium-fine steel wool (00), then progress to fine(000). There should be no sanding marks left on the wood. If sanding marks remain, they will show up in the finish as they absorb the colour. Apply a coat of grain sealer, rub down with fine wire wool, and repeat until the surface feels smooth. Rub Oil of Alkanet into the stock, leave 12 hours and repeat as often as you want until the desired colour is obtained. Now the careful part. Either using stock oil or a homemade blend, put a little on a patch and rub well into the stock. To begin with, it will soak quite a lot up. Wipe of any excess and leave to dry. before it is hard, buff well with a lint-free cloth (part of an old shirt will be OK). Some of the old-time gunmakers used to use the palm of their hand to get the smooth fiish. Apply more oil and repeat. At this stage, it is important not to have any "wet" patches on the woodwork after applying the oil or the finish will go blotchy. Repeat the process until you are satisfied. After each buffing, you will begin to notice a difference. It will take many coats before it is finshed, and you must be patient. Finally, leave it a few weeks to harden. You can always put further coats on later if you need. If at any stage you find drips, these can be carefully removed with wire wool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Yes, as the others have said. I used Danish oil as the final finish on a walnut stock,it looked great but never seemed to dry so i removed it and bought the Napier london Gunstock Kit,the finish is outstanding. Every now and then i rub a small amount of boiled linseed oil over. One point i learnt though is not to rub the finish oil in with a cloth,use your fingers,that way you dont get bits of dust off the cloth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 I can recomend the ccl kits, they are very good (and also very helpful if you phone them for advice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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