JohnGalway Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) . Edited September 2, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Howdy folks, Please read 1 & 2 carefully before proceeding. 1st of the bat, I live in Ireland I don't want this to become an SGC vs FAC vs Other legal debate until my question is answered, after that away with ye debating 2nd of all, let me make it clear here and now, NO I'm not intending on using these on live targets. Ok, as long as they're both clear as mud let's get on with it. Last visit to Alladins Cave, sorry, the gunshop, I got myself a box of 10 rifled slugs. They're Remington Shotshell Sluggers, 2 3/4" 28grams. I checked them out on the Remmy website and they say to use IC choke with them. Gunshop owner said to use Cylinder choke. Shotgun is a Baikal MP-153 semi with C, IC, M and F chokes. Since I don't wish to blow myself up just yet I'd like to know which choke is it, C or IC? (I don't think Remington would get it wrong). Many thanks in advance, John In My humble opinion ] 12 bore can be anywhere between 0.710†and 0.752â€. but the precise measurement that 12 bore should be is 0.729â€. In manufacture it is very often the case that guns will be turned out to finished size with slight variations either side of this standard, which is perfectly acceptable, and is why there are tolerances. However, let us imagine that a gun in question is exactly 729†bore diameter. On this basis a straight parallel tube out to the muzzle would be known as true cylinder. Improved cylinder would have a restriction over the bore size by 0.005†¼ choke would have a restriction over the bore of 0.010†½ choke would have a restriction over the bore of 0.020†¾ choke would have a restriction over the bore of 0.030†And full choke will have a restriction over bore size of 0.040†The idea of a choke is to constrict the stram of shot so in theory any consriction in a true 12b barrel would cause the slug to 'jam' well burst the barrels. if it were me id try clynider. . or you could always try the technical test of droping the slug through the choke to see if it fits. it also depends on the diamiter of the slug in relation to true 12g size (see above) you may find remmy barrels are at 0.710 end of the scale so in theory ic may be ok..... now im confused!!!! Hope that has added more mud to the muddy pool to make it a bit clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I'd bung them through the cyl choke first and check accuracy. If it works ok then just stick with that. I've been told by Beretta that I can fire them through my Xtrema with up to 1/4 (roughly IC I think) without problems. If you use them in a tighter choke it will PROBABLY only force the choke constriction out to 1/4 without actually blowing up, but I wouldn't risk it to be honest. Go for cylinder and see how it shoots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 John, You can safely use 1/4 choke as the rifling on a slug is in the form of curved vanes around the outside of the slug, they are not solid lead and will not get stuck. The vanes will probably slightly deform as they pass through the choke. Most of all have FUN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 You should be ok with either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopy bunny blaster Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 see how the slugs fit through the chokes, if they are too tight it isnt worth the risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted July 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 (edited) . Edited September 2, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Cheers for the answers fellas, that's sorted it out for me Great knowledge on here Question number two, I don't have any sight for the shottie besides the rib and bead. Is one necessary? Am thinking it will be. Won't be able to shoot the things until next week anyhow since I'm away off for the weekend. As for sights, shotguns wernt strictly designed for 'sights' as they are used to point the spread of shot in a general direction. If it is an o?u most spread at 60 above 40 % below the bead as for single barrels im not to sure. as its a slug there will be no spread so the best idea is to pick a point at the set target distance ie 25m and 'bore sight the shotgun' by pointing the bead at somthing like the top of the fence post and then without moving the barrels look down through them and see where they line up on the post... if you see where im coming from.... tht way you can aim off but i doubt you would really need to much. the shogun will act a bit like a musket so accuracy even with rifled slugs wont be that great at large distances as on a rifle it is the barrel that is rifled and grinds the bullet rather than the other way round. hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 To get any sort of accuracy you will need sights. I get 4" groups at 100 yds with mine using scope or red dot and 1/4 choke. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 John, You can safely use 1/4 choke as the rifling on a slug is in the form of curved vanes around the outside of the slug, they are not solid lead and will not get stuck. The vanes will probably slightly deform as they pass through the choke. Most of all have FUN. As Martin says, may increase you recoil a bit with the tighter choke. I've used Brenneke slugs through a Mossberge Slugster, flip sights with no problems. You'll be surprised how accurate they are, could easily hit a railway sleeper, 12" square at a 100yds. Straight through at that range, watch your backstop. BJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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