sheene7 Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Currently i'm running a van for work, and don't pay any tax on it, as the company don't declare any private use for me Now my boss is saying that he wants me to give up the van and have a car, Now i know if i get a car i'll get nailed for tax, Do any of you know if the same applies to the crew cab pick up's or are they classed the same as a van? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Take a looky here: What car and here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Looks like the same applies. About time too to be honest, if your not paying tax on it for private use you won't be insured for private use...you may well roll your eyes and think it's not your problem, but you're the driver and in charge of the vehicle...if you have an accident you could well end up ruining someones life! It's not just gyppo's and immigrants who run round inuninsured vehicles!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I cant quote you figures, but if you benefit from private use of the vehicle it is considered as a benefit in kind, and you will be taxed on it. I dumped the company vehicle years ago, and charge the company for the use of my personal vehicle, but the accountant handles all the numbers. I know a number of reps who gave up their company car and now run their own vehicle and charge the employer an agreed rate. The AA website may be worth a visit. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheene7 Posted July 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Thanks for that, think i might try and keep the van, unless he comes up with a bit more of the filthy lucre to compensate me for funding Browns retirement fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Even by having the van, if you take it home, it is a benefit, and therefore subject to tax. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsey Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 I don't know if this still applies but companies used to be able to declare their cars as Pool Cars. The person driving them wasn't subject to any tax deductions. However you were not able to use them for private use other than actually getting to your place of work and home again providing you weren't at your usual place of work. So for instance Engineers who are based in a certain office but have to visit sites on a regular basis which counts as business mileage. It was a great benefit to small companies and their employees. The company had to be able to prove that there wasn't a single person driving that one vehicle but many people, so there was often a log book which obviously everyone filled in using anyones name in the company. I'm certain insurance was only valid if you were on company business so the risk was all your own if using it outisde of business hours. Maybe your van is on the books as a pool car and that is how you don't pay tax on it. Jonsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Looks like the same applies. About time too to be honest, if your not paying tax on it for private use you won't be insured for private use...you may well roll your eyes and think it's not your problem, but you're the driver and in charge of the vehicle...if you have an accident you could well end up ruining someones life! It's not just gyppo's and immigrants who run round inuninsured vehicles!! I think you'll find the insurers just insure the vehicle and couldn't care less about whether you are trying to avoid tax. I know our van policies don't make a distinction and have a clause where drivers can park them at home if they want. After all if you are on call etc it can be very tedious to have to go and get your work van before going on the call out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 As someone that goes through company cars like........well....................company cars.............I usualy have 3 or 4 a year due to mileage and working in the car hire business we like to sell them on at around 15-20k on the clock - 1 - crewcabs and the 4x4 pick ups have been removed from the VAN side of the tax as too many people were screwing mr tax man on them. 2 - Personal mileage, even if you have a van.......and dont use it for personal use, your mileage too and from your workplace is still classed as personal use. HOWEVER this depends if you have a fixed place of work...this could mean the place where you clock in and out from even though you are "mobile" during the day. 3 - Good way to get out of some of the excessive bits of tax is to pay for your own "personal fuel". we run a scheme at work where we log our mileage and our commute plus any weekend evening mileage....This cuts down the amount that the tax man charges you on fuel benefit.... BUT YOU NEED TO MAKE THEM AWARE. 4 - End of the day, I get taxed on the car and the firm charges me about 40 quid a month in personal juice.........but I drive round in a new reg every time it comes out............when it breaks I give it back............I dont have to worry about paying road tax, mot, insurance blah blah.........and 40 quid in juice each month does me just fine........ITS AMAZING HOW MANY BUISNESS MILES YOU DO...... The other way is opting out of the company car scheme, gettting an allowance and then charging business miles.....but you have the resonsiblility of tax, insurance, mot, blah blah blah blah............some people make it work. Oh and before webber starts...................so what if its a astra or focus estate............get dog and guns in the back of it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Lancs, as if I would, obviously your inferiority complex is rising to the surface again. You are in a privelaged position, and wouldnt abuse it would you? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy W Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Junes issue of 4 x 4 magazine had a feature called pick up a greater tax burden, may explain the tax rules better, i have scanned and posted the article on some space of mine. http://www.a1cooling.co.uk/companycartax.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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