Griff36 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Recently, demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Parliament is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the UK might actually want to protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, make it harder as an illegal immigrant to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. Let us say I break into your house. Then, when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave, but I say, I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and done the laundry and swept the floors. In fact, I have done all the things you do not like to do. I am hard working and honest. Well, except for when I broke into your house. According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must also add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my children, pay for all my family's medical and other healthcare needs, and provide many other benefits to me and to my family. My husband will do your gardening and general odd jobs because he, too, is hard-working and honest. Well, except for when we broke into your house. If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends, who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my illegal right to be there. It is only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I am just trying to better myself. I am hard working and honest . . . . . Well, except for the . . . . . um, you know. . . . . The breaking in part. And what a great deal it is for me! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness and prejudice against house breakers. I want you to learn my language, so you can communicate with me, because English is too hard for me to learn. Also, you must change the rules in your schools so that my children can wear the clothes I want them to wear, rather than the uniform your children have to wear. Your schools must also provide special foods to my children and your children must eat these foods, too, because I do not want my children eating many of the foods you and your children eat. Otherwise, you must build schools that are especially for my children, and others like them, where they can wear the clothes of my choice, speak the language of my choice, eat the food of my choice and are taught the subjects of my choice. If you are of a different religion to me, you and your children must also learn all about my family's religion, although the schools you build for my children will not teach them about the religion of you and your family. As I am living in your house, you and your family must stop celebrating your own religious festivals but allow me always to celebrate mine. If I break the rules of your house, I should not be subject to the same punishments as your own family because my rules may be different from yours. You should also allow me to vote in my own language because I live in your house. Only in the UK could all this happen. Why cannot people see how ridiculous this is? If you agree, pass it on in English! If not, delete it . . . . . along with your future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 - your right, it just about sums up what is going on in this once great country of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 the old saying of "when in rome" still comes to mind, too many bloody imagrunts i say Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Ah this evenings worth of slagging off Britain again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Ah this evenings worth of slagging off Britain again i cant see where i slagged off "ol blighty" just making a point i thought, when in rome. now as to the other guys,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, maybe, but with good reason i fear. Martin a citizen of two of Her Majesties countries, as are many more, greedy **** we are eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Martin, in the interest of fairness I think we should swap places. You come over here and take my place and that will save me from having to go through the lengthy process of filling in the forms the Canadian government require prior to an interveiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 wat ****** me off is when 10 of them hijack a plane, they went to court and said if they go back home they will die and because of human rights they allowed them to stay. Now is it me or is that gonna encourage more hijacking. And I tell you wat this country looks after non british citizens more than their own. And i was watching a program a year or two back and rememboring this french woman having a baby on the NHS cause it was free. If the government want shorter waiting times at hospital they should make more of them before allowing more forenars in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Martin, in the interest of fairness I think we should swap places. You come over here and take my place and that will save me from having to go through the lengthy process of filling in the forms the Canadian government require prior to an interveiw. are you seriously looking, if so PM me buddy, i'll see if i can help. its never to late to shift, just a short paddle across the pond old chap. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Martin, in the interest of fairness I think we should swap places. You come over here and take my place and that will save me from having to go through the lengthy process of filling in the forms the Canadian government require prior to an interveiw. are you seriously looking, if so PM me buddy, i'll see if i can help. its never to late to shift, just a short paddle across the pond old chap. Martin Failing that try the US - I'm living proof that they'll let anyone in..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBF Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Let us say I break into your house. Then, when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave, but I say, I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and done the laundry and swept the floors. In fact, I have done all the things you do not like to do. I am hard working and honest. Well, except for when I broke into your house. Dont forget that you are more than welcome to go live in his "house" too. none of us own this country though, we are 90% descendants of immigrants to the UK anyway. im not pro or anti immigration i am anti "blagging off" the state though. and sadly thats single mums having kids for the sake of it, people faking sickness benifits and drug dealers on the dole with better trainers than me... i guess as long as i can work feed my family and have what i want then everyone else can do what they like. probably going to go live in spain or australia one day anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Martin, in the interest of fairness I think we should swap places. You come over here and take my place and that will save me from having to go through the lengthy process of filling in the forms the Canadian government require prior to an interveiw. are you seriously looking, if so PM me buddy, i'll see if i can help. its never to late to shift, just a short paddle across the pond old chap. Martin Failing that try the US - I'm living proof that they'll let anyone in..... and i thought you wuz deep deep deep under cover NB, you told em and they let you stay? running for prez next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelvebore Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 For interest, I'll add my own experiences. I am married to a non-Brit who I met in Moscow more than four years ago. I won't bore you with the details of how we met/stayed in touch/communicated, suffice to say that it wasn't easy. However, after we were married in Moscow, we then had to apply for a 'Spouse Visa' to allow my wife into this country. At the time I thought it was a nightmare, the paperwork and details the Brit embassy wanted were almost farcical, but now I know better. After her arrival here we tried to find a job for her through the local Job Centre, they refused to even speak to her as her Visa stated 'no access to public funds'. Next move was to attempt to get her a National Insurance number, again, not a chance because of the clause in her visa. As Wifey is a qualified nurse, I thought this was a bit of a joke. She then found a 'cash in hand' job as that was her only recourse to earning cash. After two years living here, we had to renew her Visa and upgrade to a 'Residence Permit' giving her permanent leave to remain in the UK. The application was daunting to say the least, and the proof of our marriage, her residence, her employment (yeah, yeah) almost forced us to bring in an immigration specialist. Anyway, after multiple letters, faxes, and phone calls to the Home Office, a claimed 28 day process turned into a four month nightmare. I must remind you that if her Visa was denied, she was on the next flight to Russia. I was seriously considering selling up and moving to a more friendly country. After many sleepless nights her visa eventually arrived (thankfully). Now we live a very quiet life in a small town. My point being, as a 'legal' immigrant my wife was denied work, any state assistance and given much grief by the Home Office. However, her views on illegal immigrants are more severe than anything I've read on this thread. If she had her way, any 'illegal' would be given a single option, the next flight out of the UK, regardless of where it was going. I trust that gives you folks an idea of being a legal immigrant. PS, If anyone is in the same process, I'll offer whatever advice I can - bin there, done that, once was enough !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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