Lucasnorth Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, villaman said: I have Hawke vantage side focus which was on my HMR but changed it for discovery ffp side focus , far better scope imo Don’t confuse me now mate😂 6 hours ago, Dave-G said: Be advised: the unburned gasses from a short barrel HMR will soon erode the aluminium baffles in a sak. Brother and I have both been there and done that following recommendations... Invest a tiny bit more in steel baffles such as an ASE UTRA rimfire: https://calibreinnovations.co.uk/product/ase-utra-dual-rimfire-moderator-1-2-unef/ Thanks. I will bare this in mind. Was looking at the sak mods. Edited July 7, 2021 by Lucasnorth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasnorth Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 What’s anyone’s thoughts on the dedicated caliber scopes. I’m now looking at this for the 17hmr as it’s a side focus. https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/vantage-30-wa-sf-ir-4-16x50-rimfire-17-hmr.html thanks Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lucasnorth said: What’s anyone’s thoughts on the dedicated caliber scopes. I’m now looking at this for the 17hmr as it’s a side focus. https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/vantage-30-wa-sf-ir-4-16x50-rimfire-17-hmr.html thanks Lucas First time I've seen that, looks a nice ret, better than their half mildot efforts. I'd not want to be using it at 16 mag to get those markings right and thats at 2550 FPS meaning a full length barrel. I'd say use it at less mag and learn the distance drops but keep in mind a HMR, particularly a short barrel variant is typically borderline 1 MOA - so forget reliable grouping at much over 150 yards. I use a BDC retical on a different scope at 8 mag to retain feasible acquisition, 16" barrel, V-max. Zero at 90 yards, first marking 150 yards. Second marking at 220 yards is just for pure optimistic vermin control body shots if getting closer isn't viable. Edited July 8, 2021 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 The calibre specific reticules are not FPP so as Dave said, limited use unless on maximum magnification. I normally lamp on lowest magnification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasnorth Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Oh good, more confusion😁 so I should probably not get a caliber specific one then. So if I just got a hawke vantage 4-16X50 AO IR. there SFP. Would that be better? or is there any lens you would recommend thanks. Lucas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasnorth Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Or am I best off with a FFP scope. Hawke do do the 4-16X50 vantage 30 WA half mil dot IR reticle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Wouldn't bother with the calibre specific one as you might change the rifle later. Put us out of our misery and just buy one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasnorth Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 😁 that’s was my plan for today. Go and buy a scope. But now I’m not sure what I want or need now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lucasnorth said: 😁 that’s was my plan for today. Go and buy a scope. But now I’m not sure what I want or need now. Get the one with the non-specific reticle: https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/vantage-30-wa-sf-4-16x50-half-mil-dot-ir.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasnorth Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Setting off shortly 😁 one last thing. Do I need wide angle as it seems to be £100 on top of the same scope without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 04/07/2021 at 17:35, Lucasnorth said: Don’t need to be anything fancy but nothing naff. Perhaps you should read this ^^ Although the WA model does have ballistic turrets, which are useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasnorth Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 So. After been in the gun shop for nearly 2 hours Iv bought everything I need. Iv paid for my rifles. Just waiting for them to turn up. The 2 scopes I went for are. For the 17 hmr https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/vantage-side-focus-4-16x44-mil-dot.html and for the 22lr https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/vantage-ir-4-12x50-ao-mil-dot-ir.html Also got 2 Deben 6-9” bipod. 2 wildcat mods. Sports match mounts. 2 tikka gun slips. 2 tikka rifle slings. And alsorts of bits and bats for cleaning them. A few quid short of £2000. Pleased as I was hoping for the £1000 mark for each set up. Thanks for everyone’s help/suggestions and advise. Lucas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Very nice, good choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasnorth Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Got a couple of things wrong there🙈 the scope for the 22lr is the 3-12X44. And the bipods are hawke not deben😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Lucasnorth said: Got a couple of things wrong there🙈 the scope for the 22lr is the 3-12X44. And the bipods are hawke not deben😁 Does it not make sense to have the higher zoom on the rifle with the longer range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasnorth Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 I thought I had. With the 16 going on the hmr. And the 12 on the 22lr. Or have I as ever got things wrong🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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