flippermaj Posted November 30 Author Report Share Posted November 30 Hi iPeter, Thanks for that. I have fired 1000's of eley eco wad steel carts and conventional steel plastic wad carts through my AYA. Plus plenty of Duplex Steel no 2 and TSS 7 through it and a couple of steel\TSS home loads with fibre wad cups. Never even used Mylar wraps on any loads! A bit rash some may say but I haven't seen any scoring of the barrels. If there is scoring should it be visible to the eye or do you need magnification gear to see it properly? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, flippermaj said: Hi iPeter, Thanks for that. I have fired 1000's of eley eco wad steel carts and conventional steel plastic wad carts through my AYA. Plus plenty of Duplex Steel no 2 and TSS 7 through it and a couple of steel\TSS home loads with fibre wad cups. Never even used Mylar wraps on any loads! A bit rash some may say but I haven't seen any scoring of the barrels. If there is scoring should it be visible to the eye or do you need magnification gear to see it properly? Cheers You can see them with the naked eye, but its fairly difficult to photograph without a bore scope, which of course makes everything look significantly worse. When I had them looked at, I was told they were only cosmetic - but not if they kept appearing. My theory as to why some some guns can fire thousands of steel cartridges with no damage, and others seem to get scored in the first few shots is that there's a large variety of internal barrel profiles - different chamber lengths, forcing cone / choke profiles / internal bore diameters, etc. If for example, there's a very steep forcing cone, I can see why steel pellets may push up againt / through the wads more so than with lead, that would likely deform / or than though a shallower profile. Likewise, I can also see why pellets may push though gaps in a wad if it's got more give, having been fired in an over bored barrel. Also, that if a 2 3/4" cartridge was fired from a 3 1/2" chamber, the gap up front may allow some pellets to escape the wad / the freedom of expansion at the end of the chamber then being compressed in the forcing cone may result in a pressure spike that causes the pellets to put pressure on / push though the wads. So lots of variables - which the very general advice given out by various authorities don't really take into account. Editted to add photos of the inside of my AYA's barells Edited November 30 by PeterHenry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippermaj Posted November 30 Author Report Share Posted November 30 Some interesting pictures there! I shall take a closer look at the AYA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 32 minutes ago, flippermaj said: Some interesting pictures there! I shall take a closer look at the AYA! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoe Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 (edited) My finding is that bio ammo breakdown whilst in the gun. My semi auto pulled the brass heads off them and left them up the chamber. Luckily the chamber was not long enough to take 2 cartridges. Worked well in a over under and I found they killed clean. Edited December 5 by joejoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 That's not very good, turns your Semi-Auto in to a single shot weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 On 28/11/2024 at 23:42, PeterHenry said: I bought some, cut them open, took one look at the wads and said no thanks. There were pellets afully close to being pushed through the wads prior to being fired - so heaven only knows what happens once the trigger is pulled.... Exactly what I did and is my concern also Peter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 13 hours ago, Fil said: Exactly what I did and is my concern also Peter. Obviously Eley is a company, and so doesn't have a conscience as such - but I wouldn't have the nerve to put something like that on the market. I've got an all bells and whistles high performance steel proofed Browning that I bought a few years ago to use especially with steel, suspecting it would pick up some damage along the way - and I didn't even want to put them through that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 Eley are just a part of Maxam, who seem to be taking over the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 19 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Eley are just a part of Maxam, who seem to be taking over the world. Not any longer Maxam sold all the cartridge manufacturing businesses they owned to Nobel Sport, their parent company Sofisport Group is the lot taking over the world together with the CSG group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 Yes I see, as of 15th November2024, FN Browning appear to be trying to take over the world of small arms ammunition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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