Amnesty International = Al Qaeda?

[Floating Chamber]

Why is it that only Amnesty and the community from where most terrosists originate, are the only sections that object to the proposed 56 day rule?

[Mungler]

I object and I don't subscribe to either.

 

If you are as brain dead not to respect your own civil liberties and trot out the "if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear" moronic response then that's your prerogative. It's one of the benefits of living in a democracy. Remember that in our CCTV, surveillance, no right to protest, ID card driven "democracy".

 

The writing is on the wall. Drip drip drip there go our civil liberties. When they go, they don’t come back.

 

And the terrorist threat? Yes it's there but what we need is better and more proficient policing (not the sort demonstrated on the tube train on 8th July). Statistically you are more likely to be run over by a cyclist than die of a terrorist threat.

[Floating Chamber]

I object and I don't subscribe to either.

 

If you are as brain dead not to respect your own civil liberties and trot out the "if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear" moronic response then that's your prerogative. It's one of the benefits of living in a democracy. Remember that in our CCTV, surveillance, no right to protest, ID card driven "democracy".

 

The writing is on the wall. Drip drip drip there go our civil liberties. When they go, they don’t come back.

 

And the terrorist threat? Yes it's there but what we need is better and more proficient policing (not the sort demonstrated on the tube train on 8th July). Statistically you are more likely to be run over by a cyclist than die of a terrorist threat.

 

Temper, temper!

 

Better policing will come with MORE time to question. You've heard of pigeon decoying, surely? It's a waiting game.

 

I asked why are they the only two organisations that have complained. READ the NEWS!!!!!!!!!!! and get off yer big 'oss!!! (no disrespect!)

[Mungler]

Well, you wondered and I answered.

 

A clever chap such as you should have known the answer to the question, which is probably why you asked it.

 

Queue the next round of ranting....

 

I would add that the other part to the equation is police numbers. More police numbers equals less time required. Also, it is not an issue of "more time to question" as in this day and age they all go "no comment". What it means they actually want more time to "do stuff" which (as aforesaid) can be achieved by more bodies (more bodies on the job means more stuff done).

[Floating Chamber]

Well, you wondered and I answered.

 

A clever chap such as you should have known the answer to the question, which is probably why you asked it.

 

Queue the next round of ranting....

 

I would add that the other part to the equation is police numbers. More police numbers equals less time required....

 

Let's not fall out!

What about: 'Many hands make light work?' ('though, too many cooks spoil the broth!) but, seriously, the folk who have come up with the 56 days know what they're doing.

[Mungler]

Drip drip drip, when it's gone it's gone.

 

56 days this year, then eighty something next year and then the year after it's off to The Bay and no trial and no lawyers for you because you tan too easy when the suns out or you have a funny last name.

 

I guess you didn't teach modern history then?

[Guest raymond1]

I object and I don't subscribe to either.

 

If you are as brain dead not to respect your own civil liberties and trot out the "if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear" moronic response then that's your prerogative. It's one of the benefits of living in a democracy. Remember that in our CCTV, surveillance, no right to protest, ID card driven "democracy".

 

The writing is on the wall. Drip drip drip there go our civil liberties. When they go, they don’t come back.

 

And the terrorist threat? Yes it's there but what we need is better and more proficient policing (not the sort demonstrated on the tube train on 8th July). Statistically you are more likely to be run over by a cyclist than die of a terrorist threat.

i should state that if you were run over by a cyclist ,that would be accidental ,..........the threat of terrorism is not an accident , and why is a responce "moronic" if someone takes that stance ,....civil liberties are abused by certain people ,usually those that have something to hide

[Chard]

I think they need a damned good thrashing with a rolled up copy of The Guardian

[Mungler]

I object and I don't subscribe to either.

 

If you are as brain dead not to respect your own civil liberties and trot out the "if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear" moronic response then that's your prerogative. It's one of the benefits of living in a democracy. Remember that in our CCTV, surveillance, no right to protest, ID card driven "democracy".

 

The writing is on the wall. Drip drip drip there go our civil liberties. When they go, they don’t come back.

 

And the terrorist threat? Yes it's there but what we need is better and more proficient policing (not the sort demonstrated on the tube train on 8th July). Statistically you are more likely to be run over by a cyclist than die of a terrorist threat.

i should state that if you were run over by a cyclist ,that would be accidental ,..........the threat of terrorism is not an accident , and why is a responce "moronic" if someone takes that stance ,....civil liberties are abused by certain people ,usually those that have something to hide

 

 

What about the old chap at the labour party conference who was detained under anti terror legislation.

 

What was he hiding?

[Mungler]

I think they need a damned good thrashing with a rolled up copy of The Guardian

 

Don't get me wrong, the one's that went down last month need the death penalty.

[Ferret Master]

Had an old woman from amnesty international in my PSRE lesson today. We watched a video implying AK47's were sold as easy as televison sales marketing would sell a fitness machine. She claimed people were ordering from weapons manufacturers and getting them delivered to the UK. Should have seen her face when I said well I own firearms and by the way semi automatic and fully automatic rifles are banned in Britain to own by the general public so no arms manufactuer is legitimately delivering them.

 

FM

[Guest The Outlaw]

Corporal punishment and national service will sort the men from the boys everytime.

 

I wish it had never been dropped in this country as a lot of heartache could have been prevented by now.

 

Tony

[Cranfield]

I am not one of those people that think the Government and the Police are finely tuned, super efficient, organisations and recent events don't persuade me to change my mind.

 

56 days detention for questioning is a bit too close to "internment" in my view.

No problem if you have the right people , but you should be able to have that sewn up in 28 days.

In special circumstances they can go to Court and ask for an extension now anyway.

They do not need these extra powers, its just another stealth control step, all wrapped up in the "fight against terrorism".

Great for distracting the voters from the real issues.

[Floating Chamber]

I suppose we'll see a day soon when burglars can sue us for time-wasting because there was nothing in the house worth nicking!

[Floating Chamber]

Had an old woman from amnesty international in my PSRE lesson today. We watched a video implying AK47's were sold as easy as televison sales marketing would sell a fitness machine. She claimed people were ordering from weapons manufacturers and getting them delivered to the UK. Should have seen her face when I said well I own firearms and by the way semi automatic and fully automatic rifles are banned in Britain to own by the general public so no arms manufactuer is legitimately delivering them.

 

FM

 

Ollie my boy, I am proud of you! Without you there, how many would have believed her? And how many schools has she visited?

 

By the way lead looks as if it's on the way down. But just in case, i am hoping to make around 250 kg next week!

[Mungler]

I suppose we'll see a day soon when burglars can sue us for time-wasting because there was nothing in the house worth nicking!

 

Ah mate, that is so facile and cliche.

[Guest The Outlaw]

I suppose we'll see a day soon when burglars can sue us for time-wasting because there was nothing in the house worth nicking!

 

Well you can be sued if you thump one if you caught him/her robbing your house.

 

Whats all that about ?

 

Tony

[markbivvy]

Great for distracting the voters from the real issues.

 

amen.

[Guest raymond1]

I object and I don't subscribe to either.

 

If you are as brain dead not to respect your own civil liberties and trot out the "if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear" moronic response then that's your prerogative. It's one of the benefits of living in a democracy. Remember that in our CCTV, surveillance, no right to protest, ID card driven "democracy".

 

The writing is on the wall. Drip drip drip there go our civil liberties. When they go, they don’t come back.

 

And the terrorist threat? Yes it's there but what we need is better and more proficient policing (not the sort demonstrated on the tube train on 8th July). Statistically you are more likely to be run over by a cyclist than die of a terrorist threat.

i should state that if you were run over by a cyclist ,that would be accidental ,..........the threat of terrorism is not an accident , and why is a responce "moronic" if someone takes that stance ,....civil liberties are abused by certain people ,usually those that have something to hide

 

 

What about the old chap at the labour party conference who was detained under anti terror legislation.

 

What was he hiding?

the handling of that afair, and the way he was treated was soon put right ,....from the top as i recall,........a protest by an old man cannot be compared to what "our foriegn guests" have in store for us ,....each case merrits its own scrutiny , and it is allways muslims who are being watched more closely ,so much so that they have become a drain on this countrys resourses

[Mungler]

I object and I don't subscribe to either.

 

If you are as brain dead not to respect your own civil liberties and trot out the "if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear" moronic response then that's your prerogative. It's one of the benefits of living in a democracy. Remember that in our CCTV, surveillance, no right to protest, ID card driven "democracy".

 

The writing is on the wall. Drip drip drip there go our civil liberties. When they go, they don’t come back.

 

And the terrorist threat? Yes it's there but what we need is better and more proficient policing (not the sort demonstrated on the tube train on 8th July). Statistically you are more likely to be run over by a cyclist than die of a terrorist threat.

i should state that if you were run over by a cyclist ,that would be accidental ,..........the threat of terrorism is not an accident , and why is a responce "moronic" if someone takes that stance ,....civil liberties are abused by certain people ,usually those that have something to hide

 

 

What about the old chap at the labour party conference who was detained under anti terror legislation.

 

What was he hiding?

the handling of that afair, and the way he was treated was soon put right ,....from the top as i recall,........a protest by an old man cannot be compared to what "our foriegn guests" have in store for us ,....each case merrits its own scrutiny , and it is allways muslims who are being watched more closely ,so much so that they have become a drain on this countrys resourses

 

 

Interestingly you are getting nearer the real issues - the real issues are that we need a better immigration policy and checks...... but that's another thread

[Floating Chamber]

I think they need a damned good thrashing with a rolled up copy of The Guardian

 

Don't get me wrong, the one's that went down last month need the death penalty.

 

But they're the ones who could escape the net if there wasn't enough time to search for evidence!

[Guest The Outlaw]

NEWBIE ALERT

[Mungler]

I think they need a damned good thrashing with a rolled up copy of The Guardian

 

Don't get me wrong, the one's that went down last month need the death penalty.

 

But they're the ones who could escape the net if there wasn't enough time to search for evidence!

 

Yeah right. Why not give the police an infinite amount of time, with no lawyers present and no charges having to be brought - that would give them all the time they would ever need, right?

 

In the immortal words of YP, I can smell the gas.....

[Chard]

I think they need a damned good thrashing with a rolled up copy of The Guardian

 

Don't get me wrong, the one's that went down last month need the death penalty.

 

But they're the ones who could escape the net if there wasn't enough time to search for evidence!

 

Yeah right. Why not give the police an infinite amount of time, with no lawyers present and no charges having to be brought - that would give them all the time they would ever need, right?

 

In the immortal words of YP, I can smell the gas.....

 

[Guest raymond1]

I think they need a damned good thrashing with a rolled up copy of The Guardian

 

Don't get me wrong, the one's that went down last month need the death penalty.

 

But they're the ones who could escape the net if there wasn't enough time to search for evidence!

 

Yeah right. Why not give the police an infinite amount of time, with no lawyers present and no charges having to be brought - that would give them all the time they would ever need, right?

 

In the immortal words of YP, I can smell the gas.....

speaking of no lawyers pressant ,.............that would save charges,.........why should forigners have access to our legal aid system ,.........other than to make lawyers richer !