Magpies are gay Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 Does any one know what the most effective silencer for the s410 is??? and were can i buy it from?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharp_shooter Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 Just an addition for this question: Is the new cf silencers from BAR any good? Better than the logun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 M A G, when I bought mine it had a AA silencer fitted to it and I aint got any problems with it. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Falcon do a very effective silencer (known as the "Long" silencer) that come with an adaptor kit for the AA410. (I think) Have a look at that, 'cos my mate has one on his FN19 and it's drops the sound of it firing a _lot_ Wookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 the aa silencer works very well, just a shame it gets scratched when you recharge the carbine :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpies are gay Posted June 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Ok Cheers u lot.. i will just have to rember to unscrew the silencer when i recharge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Mark is right, mine is scratched to ribbons and I have had to use shoe polish to darken it. Although I am told a black felt tip will do the same job. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Unscrewing it might not be a good thing to do. It _can_ have a bit of an impact on the rifle's zero. I know that my Falcon loses its zero when I take the silencer off. Mind you, it's not far, but enough that you can't be sure of a clean kill. Wookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 wookie is right, will mess up the zero. a small square of electrical tape is what you need my boy . or fit the barrel from an s410 classic like me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpies are gay Posted June 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Why does it looses zero??? Surely if you take the silencer off...re-charge and then screw it back on it should be the same?! becuase nothing has realy changed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 if the silencer was perfect no it wouldnt, but when you put it back on you **** about with a floating barrel, if it doesnt go back at exactly the same place and i mean to very small tollerences the baffles will effect the way the pellet flies through the air. if you take off your scope and put it back on in the same place you will see what i mean, i change from an n.v to a day scope and it drives me mad, hence the lazer under my silencer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Did we ever fully settle the "laser good/laser bad" argument? I've been thinking of one for a while now to aid close in work and estimating, but I keep being told not to bother... Ideas? Wookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamebag Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 To be honest about the lazer thing I think its 1) each to their own the only way your going to find out is if you try a couple of lazers out. Thing is which to go for do you go for a cheap one like the cross man lazer or do you go for an expensive one like the beam shot & 2) How you mount the little dear do you go for an under the barrel mount or do you go for mounting the lazer on your scope. Each will have their own pros & cons such as will an under the barrel mount be easy to knock, which will throw the zero or will a scope mounting affect the zeroing of the lazer if you have an over size objective lense (erm thats right isnt it objective is the big end of the scope?) will it reflect the lazer if you try & zero it for close ranges. I think that a lazer in my own opinion might be a good idea for close range/fast moving vermin that like to stop & start move like ratty & could be handy for bunnies if your closer than your rifles zero thing is though what would be an ideal zeroing range for a lazer any ideas any 1? :*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 under the barrel is no good for a p.o.i unless you can mount it very very close to the barrel, the pellet goes no where near the beam until it starts dropping 40 odd yds away. above the scope is good for longer distance and for range finding. for close work mounted from the scope to one side parralell to the barrel is best imho, say you zero it for 15yds, at 10yds itn could be 10mm to the left and at 20yds, 10mm to the right. thats good enough for rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Probably the best is the carbon jobbies from BAR. Logun next then AAs own then Falcon long. Frankly in any real world scenario the AA is perfectly adequate. Anything better is really not necessary and isn't going to increase your bag. The Falcon requires no adapter it just goes straight on. A silencer that fastens via a grub screw shouldn't be removed regularly. You WILL lose your zero. They never go back in exactly the same place. A 1/2 inch UNF fitting silencer will go on and off at will. You will only be told not to bother with a laser by those who know naff all about the subject. For distance work get it above the scope for close work you want it just above the barrel. If you must offset it to the side then do not actually zero it. If the laser is 1 inch to the right of the barrel then "zero" it 1 inch to the right of your poi. That way it'll always be 1 inch out and can be compensated for when taking the shot. Anything under the barrel is for rangefinding only and not for use as an aimpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Unscrewing it might not be a good thing to do. It _can_ have a bit of an impact on the rifle's zero. I know that my Falcon loses its zero when I take the silencer off. Mind you, it's not far, but enough that you can't be sure of a clean kill. Wookie Hi, If this is a problem that it will lose its zero then you take your silencer off or put it on again, I will strongly suggest to get a second hand Daystate Huntsman Mk2 with a 1/2" UNF adapter - because this gun is build like a tank and putting a silencer on/off the rifle WILL in NO WAY change the zero. Just my thoughts !!! Cheers - Bolta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpies are gay Posted June 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 I thorght i have had, if it does effect the zero. It cant be very well made, becuase some one would have designed it better. And i was thinking what if you walked into a tree or droped the gun on the barrel, it would probably break off, or change the zero! BUT i cld b wrong becuase i havent had a PCP yet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 its a semi-free floating barrel, DO NOT WALK INTO A TREE OR DROP THE GUN ONTO ITS BARREL!, have heard of loads of 400s getting bent barrels by proping them up against a tree and the knocking them. they are not built like tanks, i always lay mine on its bi-pod when not in use. scew in silencers are alot better, but the barrels would cost more to make, my s410 barrel was only £46, some are alot more although this should have been a bit cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 the best silenceer that you can get im my opinion is the logun, but it does need modifying to become the best! its not hard and its not rocket science all you have to do is remopve the front cap strip out the **** they put in there and repace it with vilida cloth (spelling to be corrected) you will notice the difference straight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 the best silenceer that you can get im my opinion is the logun, but it does need modifying to become the best! its not hard and its not rocket science all you have to do is remopve the front cap strip out the **** they put in there and repace it with vilida cloth (spelling to be corrected) you will notice the difference straight away. Hi, Or try Noise Control´s Magic Fleece instead. This material is been used in computers to silence them but I have found it to be best damping material for airgun silencers I have ever tried. Actually this material was invented for the Medeceds S-class cars and Noise Control got permission to use it in their computer cases. Try this material and you will see the best damping results. Cheers - Bolta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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