Vulcha Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 I have finally got some land i can shoot on. Went there with mu uncle, just too look around, but took our guns anyway. After getting a rough idea of the shoot, we began back to his car up the track. Running up in front of us was a bird which looked like a small pheasant. My uncle looked at it through his scope and told me it was a partridge. He was going to shoot it when 11 small, stripy chicks scuttled out from the hedge. Good job he didn't shoot! I think you need a game liecene to shoot them anyway don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 I have a feeling that if you shoot partridges in July, you may not have any land to shoot on , very soon. Firstly, you can only shoot them in the game season. Secondly, you need permission of the landowner to shoot "game". The fact he is letting you shoot vermin, doesn,t automatically mean you can shoot hares, pheasants, partridges, ducks geese etc. Definitely check with him. Thirdly, you will require a game licence, which you can purchase at the Post Office. I,m very suprised your Uncle didn,t know all these facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted July 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 We weren't sure if you needed a game liecence. I though you may need one because they ar like pheasants. Is there a certain criteria you must meet to get a game liecence? We didn't shoot any partridges!!! in fact, we shot nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted July 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Oh, another question, when does the game seson begin and end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrie0 Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 From basc.org.uk Home > Shooting > Shooting Seasons Shooting Seasons & Quarry Species Quarry There are a number of birds, wildfowl (ducks and geese) and animals which can be shot legally. For many species there is a close season during which time it is illegal to shoot them. The provision of this undisturbed period ensures that they are able to breed and disperse and grow in peace. The species and seasons for England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are shown below. Conservation & Land Management Department Shooting & Wildlife Management Advice Shooting Seasons and Quarry Species Game(1) , Wildfowl - Open Seasons (dates inclusive) Species England, Scotland and Wales Northern Ireland(see note 2) Pheasant Oct 1 - Feb 1 Oct 1 - Jan 31 Partridge Sept 1 - Feb 1 Sept 1- Jan 31 Grouse Aug 12 - Dec 10 Aug 12 - Nov 30 Ptarmigan (only found in Scotland) Aug 12 - Dec 10 -- Blackgame (not currently found in NI) Aug 20 - Dec 10 -- Common Snipe Aug 12 - Jan 31 Sept 1 - Jan 31 Jack Snipe Protected at all times Sept 1 - Jan 31 Woodcock Oct 1- Jan 31 Oct 1 - Jan 31 Woodcock - Scotland Sept 1 - Jan 31 -- Duck & Goose - inland Sept 1 - Jan 31 Sept 1 - Jan 31 Duck & Goose - below HWM of ordinary spring tides Sept 1 - Feb 20 Sept 1 - Jan 31 Coot/Moorhen Sept 1 - Jan 31 Protected at all times Golden Plover Sept 1 - Jan 31 Sept 1 - Jan 31 Curlew Protected at all times Sept 1 - Jan 31 Hare (cannot be sold Mar 1st to July 31st) Moorland & unenclosed land subject to closed season Aug 12 - Jan 31 Deer - Open Seasons (dates inclusive) Species Sex England, Wales and Northern Ireland Scotland Red Stags Aug 1 - April 30 July 1 - Oct 20 Hinds Nov 1 - Feb 28th/29th Oct 21 - Feb 15 Fallow Bucks Aug 1 - April 30 Aug 1 - April 30 Does Nov 1 - Feb 28/29th Oct 21 - Feb 15 Sika Stags Aug 1 - April 30th July 1st - Oct 20th Hinds Nov 1st - Feb 28th/29th Oct 21st - Feb 15th Roe (not currently found in NI) Bucks April 1st - Oct 31st April 1st - Oct 20th Does Nov 1st - Feb 28th/29th Oct21st - Mar 31st Red / Sika Hybrids (NI only) Stags Aug 1st - April 30th July 1st - Oct 20th Hinds Nov 1st - Feb 28th/29th Oct 21st - Feb 15th Chinese Water Deer - (only found in England) Nov 1st - Feb 28th/29th (Note: 3) -- Muntjac (not currently found in NI or Scotland) -- (Note 4) -- NOTES FOR ATTENTION 1 Game licences are still required by law. These should be acquired from your local post office. ("Game" means hares, pheasants, partridges, grouse, heath and moor game and black game. Rabbits are not included). 2 Please note BASC Northern Ireland can provide further detail on specific issues relating to Northern Ireland quarry & seasons. 3 Chinese Water Deer no season applies but due to difficulties in identifying immature males and females the above culling period is followed. 4 Muntjac no season applies to this species but recommendations are that does only to be culled if pregnant or immature to reduce leaving dependent young. Please Note: This technical information sheet is for guidance on some of the main laws affecting your sport, if you need any further information please contact the BASC Head Office on 01244 573000 or see your members guide for further information sources, additional publications and detailed information Ducks and Geese Non-Toxic Shot use for waterfowl-See specific technical information from BASC Research Team or Country Offices. England, Wales & Scotland: The duck and geese species that can be shot are: Gadwall Goldeneye Pintail Pochard Shoveler Wigeon Tufted Duck Mallard Teal Canada Greylag Pink-footed White-fronted goose (in England and Wales only) Northern Ireland: There is no shooting on the foreshore after 31st January, shooting of any wild bird including pest species is prohibited at night. Duck and goose species that can be shot are: Gadwall Goldeneye Pintail Pochard Scaup Shoveler Wigeon Tufted Duck Mallard Canada Teal Greylag Pink-footed Prohibited Methods of Taking/Killing Wildlife (Including Game) Please note additional legislation applies to deer, further information is available from the BASC Deer Department on 01244 573025 It is illegal to use certain methods for killing or taking wildlife. Unless stated the following offences, which are subject to prosecution, apply to both birds and animals: - The use of any automatic or semi-automatic weapon against any bird except the Bird Pest Species and some mammals. "Automatic weapon" and "semi-automatic weapon" includes any weapon the magazine of which is capable of holding more than two rounds. - The use of any form of artificial lighting, mirror or other dazzling device (see BASC Lamping Code of Practice for exemptions). - The use of any mechanically propelled vehicle in immediate pursuit of wildlife for the purpose of killing or taking. - The use of any self-locking snare. - The use of any bow or crossbow or explosive other than ammunition for a firearm (or shotgun). - The use of any live animal or bird as a decoy which is tethered or which is secured by means of braces or other similar appliances, or which is blind, maimed or injured. - The use of shotgun where the barrel has an internal diameter, at the muzzle, of more than 1¾ inches (Birds only). - The use of any device for illuminating a target (see BASC Lamping Code of Practice for exemptions inches). - The use of any sound recording to act as a decoy (Birds only). The Sale of Dead Wild Birds The sale of the following dead wild birds is allowed during the period from September 1st - February 28th where present in England, Wales and Scotland: Shoveler Pochard Coot Tufted Duck Mallard Teal Pintail Golden Plover Woodcock Common Snipe Wigeon The sale of dead wild birds is prohibited in Northern Ireland but the sale of the following species is allowed at all times: Feral Pigeon Woodpigeon The sale of game is subject to the Game Acts, a licence is required to take and/or sell game and is available from main Post Offices. Bird Pest Species The following thirteen bird pest species may be killed or taken by authorised persons at any time under annual open and general licences issued by the Department of the Environment. No individual has to apply for a licence: Crow Jackdaw Magpie Rook House Sparrow Starling Woodpigeon Feral Pigeon Collard Dove* Herring Gull Jay* Lsr Black-backed Gull Gt. Black-backed Gull *Protected in Northern Ireland Mammals Recognised as Pests The following mammals can be controlled by legally approved methods all year round: Fox *Rat *Mice Rabbit Grey Squirrel Mink Weasel Stoat Feral Cat * All species except Dormice Hare Seasons: The Ground Game Act 1880 (Amended 1906) Section 1(3) should be consulted when shooting hares on moorland and unenclosed land in England, Scotland and Wales. Sunday and Christmas Day Shooting * England & Wales: No game (including hare) may be shot in any county on any Sunday or on Christmas Day. No wildfowl may be shot in certain counties on Sunday. * Detailed list available in BASC members Wildfowl Permit Scheme Booklet Before the passing of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, orders prohibiting the shooting of Wildfowl on Sundays could be made under the provisions of the Sections 2 and 13 of the Protection of Birds Act 1954. The counties still effected by the imposition of this legislation are as follows: Anglesey, Brecknock, Caernarfon, Carmarthen, Cardigan, Denbigh, Devon, Doncaster, Glamorgan, Great Yarmouth County Borough, Isle of Ely, Leeds County Borough, Merioneth, Norfolk, Pembroke, Somerset, North and West Ridings of Yorkshire. Northern Ireland (Wildlife Order Northern Ireland): All wild birds are protected on Sunday or on Christmas Day. Scotland: There are no statutory restrictions on the killing of game on Sunday or on Christmas Day although it is not customary to do so. Wildfowl may not be shot on any Sunday or on Christmas Day. Amended: May 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted July 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 That has been very helpful, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Don,t forget to check with the Landowner, exactly what you have permission to shoot. Just getting a Game Licence from the Post Office, doesn,t entitle you to shoot game without the Landowners permission. This is very important, not only could you lose your shooting, you could lose your Shotgun Certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozo Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 NI really sucks :< lol i have only ever saw like 3 woodcock(didnt shoot them because they r so rare), nevermind a partridge! is ther any1 in NI on this site that has recently got their first .22 rifle?? r that has any information on deer shooting over here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled_cky Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 not knowing the seasons and going to shoot game astonoshing.. i ran into a pheasant 2days after season ended with my .410 and i couldve easily shot and got my first pheasant but i let it run off down the field. cool i can shoot my mothers cat thanks for that barrie0. shame is dad says its not worth the 2p for the bullet Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted July 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Aled, thats horrible, poor little cat! I don't have a shotgun liecence, i only have an air rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled_cky Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 ah ok.. cat is very sly it sneeks in through doors when you leave them open for 1 min to get smoke out of kitchen.. shooting a partridge with a air rifle wouldnt be right.. very easy to injure it and lead it to a painfull death later on. Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted July 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Hey, i wasn't gonna shoot it! My uncle was and his gun is FAC rated. 20ft/lbs i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted July 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Well, thanks for the information guys. I will be much more carefull in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdev Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 Ozo !!!!!!!! You must be looking in the wrong spots for the Woodcock? are you using a dog also? I have shot in N Ireland for most of my life and have seen plenty of the little ******* in the right spots. Also depends on the wind direction as to where they lay up. As their not to keen on any wind from the N/E direction. KEEP LOOKING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 Woodcock are a great little bird. The wet weather in NI is absolutely great for them. The country is stuffed full of them, you just need to be sure that the wood is not overly disturbed and I virtually guarentee you to find some. A hard winter in Scotland often brings even more in, I think they come in on the full moons. Here in England on my shoot I've seen a couple but I don't shoot them as they are no where near as numerous and I like them a lot. Shot a fair few in NI though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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