steyrman Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 i have both .22 & 17hmr with slot for .223 which i will be buying in the next day or so or as soon as i can get my shoe on (GOUT) the problem i have is will i use the 17 once i get the .223 The 223 will do both fox and roe and a ase utra mod on the .22 will silence high velocity rounds (i think) it just seems imo that the 17 is between the .22 and the .223 whats your opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjdwillis Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 (edited) Even an ASE Utra mod wont silence high velocity rounds...(i dont think?). I would keep the .17HMR, i think its a much better rifle than a .22lr even though its louder. longer range and head shots. I cant see how the adition of a .223 will affect the use of the hmr unless it was foxes that you where using it for. thats just my opinion, you have both rifles so only you know which you prefer. Also .223 wont do for roe south of the border! Edited February 21, 2008 by tjdwillis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davo Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I've got all three, .22LR, .17HMR and .223, they all have there place in the gun cabinet as each is suited to the particular types of shooting I do, it really depends on what you use them for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I think that davo has it right. I use my HMR for longer range rabbits, and the .22LR mainly for lamping rabbits. I guess that if you were to substitute the .17 with the .223 you may well virtually vaporise a few bunnies? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Even an ASE Utra mod wont silence high velocity rounds...(i dont think?). I would keep the .17HMR, i think its a much better rifle than a .22lr even though its louder. longer range and head shots. I cant see how the adition of a .223 will affect the use of the hmr unless it was foxes that you where using it for. thats just my opinion, you have both rifles so only you know which you prefer. Also .223 wont do for roe south of the border! sorry should of said i am only 83 miles from the scottish border and have three permissions up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 sorry dont know what happened to the last thread but once again i have permission on three farms in scotland for the roe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I replaced my HMR with a 223 and i have just finished filling out a new firearms variation to get it back again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 my dad has the .22 and the .17hmr n a .223 n he uses them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 i remember you had that lovely weirauch paul what makes you want to go back to 17hmr mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 IMHO the hmr is far superior to the .22 its only downside is noise and thats only a downside to people / horses etc not rabbits as it doesn't seem to bother them. With the HMR and flat trajectory to 125 yards you point and shoot at most rabbits you can see when lamping, with a .22 you are vastly restricted on range and certainly won't get as confident of taking fast shots as you are with the HMR. It is a lot more like shooting a centrefire than a rimfire, the rounds are more accurate they pack a far harder punch and put rabbits down very humanely. Add the lack of ricochets and I prefer to pay the premium ammo wise to use it. Its still cheaper than using a shotgun With most winged vermin in daylight you can take them with practice at up to 200 yards sometimes more which is a hell of an advantage. As for wind well just limit the range you shoot at in wind to sub 100 yards and you hardly notice it. Where the .22 still has a place is plinking and quiet work round horses and livestock and houses but you have to be so careful ricochet wise i choose not to use one any more on our ground. To my mind you couldn't use the .223 in the same way as you really don't want to be using 50 plus rounds a night on rabbits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 all points taken think i will hang on to the .22 & 17hmr quad and just have the .223 aswell rather pleased to be having an extra gun in the cabinet too apart from having a nighteye 6-24x56 spare it will come in handy now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I totally agree with every thing alex has said - i now miss my HMR and quite fancy another , so time to spend again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I have FAC air rifle ,.17hmr and a .223 .IMO the average shooter with typical land with outbuilding's barn conversions etc covering it on foot shooting rabbits ,foxes and corvids needs all three . .22lr would only be my first choice if covering 1000's of acres in a vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjdwillis Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 If in time you find that one rifle is not getting any use, thats the time to sell...not now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 keeping them all and buying a .223 going for it tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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