SirMorris Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hello all, Has anyone tried both mechanisms? Make a sound and give me your thoughts...Please! How is the recoil on both? Maintenance?spare parts? I understand that the gas powered directs some of the gas resulting from the "combustion" to eject and feed, but doesn't that affect the pressure and weakens the propulsion of the fired shots? Sorry if dim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Gas-driven mechs do not have any discernible effect on muzzle velocity, so no need to worry there. Gas will require regular cleaning to ensure that the piston cycles reliably. However, the recoil is less on a gas-operated semi than on an interia-driven gun. Intertia-driven semis are usually lighter, more compact, and less fussy about dirt. I've used both for many years, and if I were to buy again I would go for a Beretta, or a Benelli M2 Field. Each are the best of their two respective categories, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hello all,Has anyone tried both mechanisms? Make a sound and give me your thoughts...Please! How is the recoil on both? Maintenance?spare parts? I understand that the gas powered directs some of the gas resulting from the "combustion" to eject and feed, but doesn't that affect the pressure and weakens the propulsion of the fired shots? Sorry if dim! Hello mate, I have a beretta xtrema 2 (gas) and the old man has a benelli super black eagle 2 (inertia) Both guns are market leaders, cant go wrong with either. The beretta is a bit heavier but has a lot less felt re-coil when firing bigger loads due to the kickoff system. It will also cycle light clay loads which the benelli struggles to do. chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 A good and cheap inertia s/a is Franchi al48 if you want to try before you buy.Nothing in them to clean and very light.Despite lack of fancy butt pad i find the recoil as little as any gas operated.Loads of this model around for sub£200 so guess no prob re spares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEREALTHRILLER Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I've only owned a Browning Gold Hunter (gas) but I can't fault it. light and very little recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 gas gas and gas tried and tested.dont like inertia and never will buy one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMorris Posted March 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 gas gas and gas tried and tested.dont like inertia and never will buy one why in heaven's sake are Binnelli bragging about the inertia then!! I will go for gas and see then! cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 just my opinion i have saw numerous jams with benelli shotties and i once won a clay shoot as an others gun jammed and gave him confidence problems. gas never fails with me. im sure plenty of other folk wont agree with me.i know they are easier cleaned too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 (edited) Inertia guns are more sensitive to loads, a Browning that I had would only handle 70mm cartridges, anything less than an ounce and an eigth would cause jams. A gas operated system (and especially Beretta) will usually handle any cartridge that you put in it. There is no loss of power in a gas operated gun, the shot has already left the barrel before the action unlocks. Edited March 25, 2008 by bob300w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 A good and cheap inertia s/a is Franchi al48 if you want to try before you buy.Nothing in them to clean and very light.Despite lack of fancy butt pad i find the recoil as little as any gas operated.Loads of this model around for sub£200 so guess no prob re spares. Vole, You are confusing inertia with long recoil. The AL-48 is a long recoil action like the Browning A5 and remington 48. In a long action the entire barrel cycles back into the action by about 3". The inertia system is owned by benelli (used by its subsidiaries) and only the bolt cycles back (barrel is stationary). In the long recoil you DO have to clean, and they can be susceptible to not cycling. However they are very easy to maintain. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 (edited) Bloody hell,glad I learnt this before going public with ignorance about my own gun! I thought it was the same thing.Cheers Rick. Anyhoo I do find the recoil pretty soft though. Edited March 26, 2008 by vole21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 The recoil on a long recoil gun is different than others. With a gas or inertia gun the recoil is a slow wallop/push. With the long recoil guns it is a cha-ching noise of the action operating and a double recoil of the barrel coming back and then going forward again. It takes a little getting used to for a few shots. A long recoil design does absorb some of the recoil of a shot (more than a fixed action gun like a pump or break action) but not as much as a gas gun. Thanks, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMorris Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I was just reading about the Kalashnikov guns and unless i misunderstood they adopt the same gas powered concept... correct me if wrong. if this is the case then i will certainly go for a gas powered! the kalashinkov design is one of the most successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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