red_stag88 Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 As I am getting a .22, I have decided to go for the whole shebang, bipod and scope I have sorted out (I think!) The rifle may turn out to be either a Savage Arms MKII Synth+Blue or Synth+SS. But that leaves the lamp... What would you get? I do have a very old deben lamp, with no batts. Would it be more worth while buying new batts instead? Cheers, Red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Red I have a Logun lamp fitted to the scope. I find it very effective and light weight. I also have a Clulite which I use hand held for a broad sweep. I also have one of those remote control jobs which is good for a rapid sweep of an area. Most of my lamping is done through the sun roof of the Shogun, absolute luxury. Dont know if this helps or just confuses the situation. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted September 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I would be on foot, so a logun might be the way to go. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sniper Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Red, I have used the Deben range for a number of years and have found them to be right for the job. The one I have now is the Tracer max 400 yard beam. That one goes on my 223 when I am walking for charlie. It also doubles on my 22, but if it is 22 only you are going to use the lamp on, may I suggest the Tracer atom. That has a beam on it good enough for 100 yards and is far lighter, plus it uses a 6v power supply. BTW, You say you are going for a bipod as well. When rabbit lamping, on foot, I favour the Harris bipod that extends to 23". That way you can take the shots while kneeling, instead of having to get down into the muck everytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted September 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I already have a bipod Snipe, it was on the cheap from a game fair. The lamp at home is a bit of a beast. It takes two huge batteries on a belt (which refuse to charge). So it looks like the atom, I will get some red filters too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I've a Tracer Atom. Bobajob for 22 rimmy I reckon. I've heard negatives about Logun but I've not used them personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I use a scope mounted Lightforce lamp with coloured filters. It is so easy to attach/detatch to the clip on the scope. It has flood or pencil beam and is powered by battery pack belt or ciggie lighter in the jeep. Mutts-nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 for a rimmy you wont get better than this Nightsearcher Gun Light Kit L18 : Nightsearcher Gun Light Kit Without doubt we believe this is the best gunlight available today. Made with an aluminium body, aluminium reflector and Borosilicate glass and fitting with a 50 watt Xenon bulb, it is rated at 1 million candle power. A 100 watt bulb can be purchased as an optional extra to give in the order of 1.5 million candle power output. It has a 25mm barrel fitting which is supplied with rubber reducer so it will go on smaller barrels. The stock switch and coil lead with cigar plug fitting can be plugged into a car cigar socket or the 12v 7ah canvas power pack which comes complete with shoulder strap and mains charger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I recently fitted a laser to the scope of my rimfire. I am certainly no covert special forces nut before I get any silly comments. I just like tinkering with the Ruger. If the scope is zeroed to the rifle and the laser is zeroed to the scope, the round hits where you put the red laser dot. the laser is activated by a little pressure pab under my thumb. I fitted a Beamshot 1000S. This laser gives a 50mm red dot at 100 yards which is ample for a rimfire. I would not advocate the sole use of a laser for shooting at night. I would say that 98% of my kills are still taken by lamplight and scope sighting. The few times I have used the laser and just put the red dot onto the rabbit, the result has always been the right one! The laser can also be seen during the day if it is not too sunny. This is excellent when we shoot 25yard practical pistol discipline, but with rifles, at Bisley. (The ban on handguns stopped the proper practical pistol). Look at Beamshot lasers here. www.gunshoprugby.co.uk Happy and safe shooting. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 My mate has the night searcher and is pleased with it. Given that Red is not made of money it may be an idea if we gave him an idea as to the price of the relevant bits of kit. So here goes. I bought the Logun lamp second hand, but as new from an advertisement in Loot, complete kit with filters for £50. I paid a similar price for the Clulite, also from an advertisement in Loot. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Lightforce scope mounted lamp and scope attachment £70.00 Belt battery pack 12v 10amp/hr £69.00. If you buy Sporting Gun, look at the advert on pages 32-33 of the October issue. The company, Target Sports of Bolton, sold me my lamp kit and service was second to none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Red, I have a logun, 2 in fact. At the sort of price I imagine you can afford to pay it will do the job well enough is robust and lightweight and the battery pack doesnt weigh an excessive amount. You can always upgrade when you can afford it and they are always snapped up pretty quickly on the second hand market. As you will no doubt be doing most of your lamping on foot this would be the ideal choice. I have 2 logun lamps one on the .22 Axor for Bunny shooting and one on the .223 Rem. Its all very well having a lamp that can illuminate your target at ranges in excess of 200m but to be honest I dont feel comfortable about taking shots at that sort of range in the dark anyway. Would I give a fellow angler anything other than sound advice. FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Its all very well having a lamp that can illuminate your target at ranges in excess of 200m but to be honest I dont feel comfortable about taking shots at that sort of range in the dark anyway. Not at all a bad policy given the recent incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I have 2 logun lamps one on the .22 Axor for Bunny shooting and one on the .223 Rem. Its all very well having a lamp that can illuminate your target at ranges in excess of 200m but to be honest I dont feel comfortable about taking shots at that sort of range in the dark anyway. you need a lamp that will light up further than your intended range to spot your quary, so you can aproach your quary taking into account wind direction terrain ete etc............ logun on a .223 rem i ASSUME you use this cal for foxes, with a logun lamp you ARE NOT lighting up the fox enough to see it clearly enough to take a SAFE shot. at 100yds all you would see is the reflection of the foxes eyes you wont have a clue which way its standing, sitting etc, especialy if it is in long grass reeds etc. it could even be a sheep, lamb, calf etc etc inlight of the recent incident IF YOU ARE USING THE .223 REM FOR FOXES GET A DECENT LAMP LIGHTFORCE 170 ( brilliant lamp for centrefires ) never take the shot until CAN SEE WHAT YOU ARE SHOOTING.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 [logun on a .223 rem i ASSUME you use this cal for foxes, with a logun lamp you ARE NOT lighting up the fox enough to see it clearly enough to take a SAFE shot. I agree with everything you say TT. The rem is used for occassional use against foxes which come around the chicken runs. I shoot them against a 4 m high earth mound at a range not exceeding 50m. I never use the Logun lamp at a range greater than this on the rem and I rarely use the rem at night in any event. I never compromise on safety when using the larger calibre and apologise if I mislead any one into thinking that the Logun was suitable for anything other than occasional use at short ranges with the .223 but it does the job well enough for me at the ranges I shoot at. FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 for an air rifle you cant go wrong with a clulite for a rimmy a nightsearcher for centre fire nightforce all the rest in my opinion are ****, they might do for ratting around farm buildings etc but for anything else forget it!!!!!!!!!!! dont forget you need a lamp that will go futher than your intended range to spot your quarry so you can aproach it correctly taking in to cosidderation wind direction terrain etc etc................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted September 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 As I'm on a tight budget, it looks like the two main lamps that I will be scouring Ebay for are the Tracer Atom and the Logun. The others look good, but £70 with out batteries is just too much! Cheers for all the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 look click here clulite (ebay) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted September 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Looks good, but not sure about if it has batts. I emailed the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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