if you have permission

[martin1]

Hi all,

Was reading some of these posts and i wanted to comment, i dont mean this in a bad way but a fare way..

 

When you have a perfect shoot,why go around securing more??

by doing that you are taking away a shoot for another person?

I see people bragging "i got 4000 acres" can you shoot that in a day??

no, so why secure it and take some one elses chance away?

 

which is 9/10 the farmer refuses and like i read on one lads post "he said he has to many on but he has flocks of 100 mag pies" and why??

because the person with the permission has to much land and can not shoot it..

 

Im not nip picking, i just want people to think ..

i have a small shoot and every local has said the same thing "we have to any people on" or we got shotgun and 22 which ive heard around 10times and makes me beleive that it is the same lads who have all the shoots ..

 

I read another "we done a 3hour drive,got a shoot but we aint gonna use it as its a 2hour drive"!

so what if theres a local lad who wants to shoot it and he gets refused as you have the permission??

 

Have a think lads , if you have a good shoot "why not give some one else a chance"..

 

Be fare and happy shooting

[tjdwillis]

its a good point but i would have thought that if the farmers not happy he will let someone else shoot there.

[Dave-G]

Depends on what you shoot really Martin. If pigeon is your main thing I'd be inclined to agree with you to an extent - but thats something I have no experience of. Don't forget that pigeon have the option to feed where they darn well please so shift around to the preffered crop as it's available.

 

Otherwise it's a matter of moderate quarry conservation for some of us - or ruthless extermination for others. Minimal rabbit control shoots for example would soon get cleared up - then you're left with nothing to shoot, and no reason for the farmer to take another shooter on anyway. So you secure several permissions and shoot them all occasionally as needs and circumstances dictate. If we leave it too long we risk losing it to someone who may come across as keener.

 

Crop fields for example are best controlled after the crop has been harvested - or is small and lush enough to be a sought after food source. Once the crop gets about 6 inches high rabbit control more or less ceases till the harvest again.

 

Thats when you hammer some other permissions such as grazing land - or other crop fields with a different crop - or stage of growth or set aside. This also gives the rabbit time to have young ones that have no reason to suspect they're about to be shot. Most farmers expect to see a few bunnies - some even like to see the odd one or two about.

 

Sorry if you feel left out, looks like you may have to look further afield - or find a reason why a landowner would rather have you than his other shooter(s)

[2shots]

ME AND MY MATES HAVE JUST LOST A 4000 ACRE SHOOT WEVE HAD FOR

EIGHT YEARS AT A COST OF 2500 QUID A YEAR, PLUS 5 DAYS PHEASANTS

WE USED TO DO FOR THE FARMER AND HIS MATES, AND HELP OUT AT HARVEST

ETC ALSO PLUMBING /ELECTRICS// MECHANICS IN FACT ANYTHING WE COULD

EVERYONE HAD THIER FAC ONLY FOR THIS LAND SO A RIGHT CARRY ON FOR US.

.HE TOOK £4000 A YEAR OFF AN AMERICAN BLOKE WHO WITH HIS DANISH

PARTNER IS NOW RENTING ALL THE ADJACENT SHOOTING AT STUPID PRICES.

WE WENT AND TOOK ALL OUR GEAR FEEDERS PENS ETC AND THE BLOKE WENT BALLISTIC

WITH THE FARMER AND WANTS HIM TO REPLACE IT ALL, HE EVEN RANG ME TO BUY IT BACK

AND PUT IT BACK, THEN ASKED IF WE CAN STILL HELP ON THE FARM?(NO SHOOTING

MIND) THE BLOKE WONT ALLOW IT,YOU CAN IMAGINE OUR RESPONSE.

[bob300w]

ME AND MY MATES HAVE JUST LOST A 4000 ACRE SHOOT WEVE HAD FOR

EIGHT YEARS AT A COST OF 2500 QUID A YEAR, PLUS 5 DAYS PHEASANTS

WE USED TO DO FOR THE FARMER AND HIS MATES, AND HELP OUT AT HARVEST

ETC ALSO PLUMBING /ELECTRICS// MECHANICS IN FACT ANYTHING WE COULD

EVERYONE HAD THIER FAC ONLY FOR THIS LAND SO A RIGHT CARRY ON FOR US.

.HE TOOK £4000 A YEAR OFF AN AMERICAN BLOKE WHO WITH HIS DANISH

PARTNER IS NOW RENTING ALL THE ADJACENT SHOOTING AT STUPID PRICES.

WE WENT AND TOOK ALL OUR GEAR FEEDERS PENS ETC AND THE BLOKE WENT BALLISTIC

WITH THE FARMER AND WANTS HIM TO REPLACE IT ALL, HE EVEN RANG ME TO BUY IT BACK

AND PUT IT BACK, THEN ASKED IF WE CAN STILL HELP ON THE FARM?(NO SHOOTING

MIND) THE BLOKE WONT ALLOW IT,YOU CAN IMAGINE OUR RESPONSE.

This sounds as though it is going to be the farmers loss as much as it is yours, in this position, I would keep well away from the farm for 12 months, then approach the farmer and ask him how the shoot went, you may well find that he would prefer you and your assistance to people who only wish to shoot pheasants. It's happened before.

[2shots]

This sounds as though it is going to be the farmers loss as much as it is yours, in this position, I would keep well away from the farm for 12 months, then approach the farmer and ask him how the shoot went, you may well find that he would prefer you and your assistance to people who only wish to shoot pheasants. It's happened before.

 

Your right BoB theyll probably shoot the place to death then hopefully get lost,

weve allready offered the same deal if it comes back up.

[bob300w]

This sounds as though it is going to be the farmers loss as much as it is yours, in this position, I would keep well away from the farm for 12 months, then approach the farmer and ask him how the shoot went, you may well find that he would prefer you and your assistance to people who only wish to shoot pheasants. It's happened before.

 

 

Your right BoB theyll probably shoot the place to death then hopefully get lost,

weve allready offered the same deal if it comes back up.

Most of the farmers that I know would go for your deal, with the help when required, hang on to your release pens, I think that you will need them next year.

[Lloyd90]

To be honest 2Shot , Screw that farmer, theres no way on earth that I would go back and help him on his farm. How can he have the cheak to do that to you then then still expect you to do all the jobs he wants done ?

 

Start looking for somewhere new mate with your friends. People like that arent worth associating with.

[badger007]

The best way is to do what you can manage, if you do a 9-5 job..be honest with your self, as a hobby shooter.

 

these farms ,or land owner do wish the infestation to be balanced, so dont go over board on the permission, if you cannot afford ,or keep up to it. as it is an expensive sport as we know ( fuel/ammo/equipt)

 

& lets face it, would yuou like a shotty going off every 10 mins on your day off (sunday) ??

 

as this only gives you & other permission seekers a bad name...(unrealiable & a nusance)

 

keep your permission balanced (some days are good, some boring) & look after the farmer/landowner, ask ' if they need a spare set of hands' just call . most wont take you up!

 

& remember to keep intouch & let them know when your on, & thank them for the day/eve shoot after.

 

drop in a sunday diner of game, cleaned

 

& who knows.