'Closed' ticket

[steve_b_wales]

My mate, who I have been supervising has recently had the condition taken off his ticket and can now shoot on his own. He only had the one named land at the moment and his ticket is 'closed'

Could he go on other farms accompanied by the person who has permission to shoot that land, or would it be unlawful.

 

Thanks

Steve

Edited August 9, 2008 by steve_b_wales

[codling99]

aslong as the person he is with has had the land cleared or assecess the land safe himself(if he has open ticket) he ll be fine.

[steve_b_wales]

Cheers for that Tony. And thanks again for the rabbits. Gonna have one in a casserole tomorrow.

[THEINVISIBLESCARECROW]

If the ticket says land with permission & passed by police (forgot exact wording) you can shoot on land that the police have give the nod too without notifying anyone.

If It states only one plot of land moan & get it changed.

[njc110381]

Does it say "land deemed suitable by the chief of police" or does it name the farm he shoots over? As far as I'm aware all FACs are now granted with the deemed suitable term, but I mat be wrong. If he can shoot any cleared land then as long as it's been passed he'll be fine with the landowners permission.

 

If it names a farm, get it changed! I also don't think an open FAC holder can pass ground for others, just for themselves. To shoot somewhere a more experienced friend says is ok could land him in trouble!

[markbivvy]

or assecess the land safe himself(if he has open ticket) he ll be fine.

Are you 100% sure of this.

Edited August 9, 2008 by markbivvy

[CharlieT]

You say his ticket is closed. Therefore he can only shoot on land "cleared" ie deemed suitable for his caliber of rifle. He shoots under the authority and rules of his ticket not his mates.

[markbivvy]

He shoots under the authority and rules of his ticket not his mates.

this is more like it, good man C.

[steve_b_wales]

So if I take him on my land (which has been cleared for up to a 308, he can use his 22/250 if he is with me?

[markbivvy]

So if I take him on my land (which has been cleared for up to a 308, he can use his 22/250 if he is with me?

 

yes.

And no need to tell the old bill.

Edited August 9, 2008 by markbivvy

[taffygun]

If he has named land on his certificate then I think you'll find he can only shoot on that land as he's no longer under your supervison.

If it states land deemed suitable by the chief of police then he can use it on any land already passed for that calibre providing he has permission to shoot there - that permission can be granted as a 3rd party by any person who has permission from the landowner.

Thats what I was told by Gwent Firearms - don't know if South Wales Firearms would be any different.

 

Closed ticket = Only land named on the certificate

Semi-Open ticket = On any land deemed suitbale by the chief of police for the force area which the land is situated

Open certificate = any land on which you have lawful permission from the landowner and you deem suitable to shoot

Edited August 9, 2008 by taffygun

[codling99]

or assecess the land safe himself(if he has open ticket) he ll be fine. :good Are you 100% sure of this.

 

yep, aslong as the land he is shooting on as been cleared by the police,or the person with open ticket deems the land to be safe for calibre being used,and obviously he hasnt got the actual farm named on his ticket which i have never heard of being done he be fine,and besides,i know the both parties involved and the guns mentioned and the land he s going on ,so dont worry steve ,you be fine matey if in doubt ring alan mate

[markbivvy]

,or the person with open ticket deems the land to be safe for calibre being used

sorry but this is wrong.

if this is the case i could go round the country clearing land for anyone.

and the feo,s would never need to leave the office.

[DaveK]

If the conditions only relate to the one farm then that is the Only place that can be shot. If the conditions (as previously stated) have the land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police condition, then you can shoot on land that has been cleared BY THE POLICE. I find it strange that some FLO's still include the named land I suggest you challenge it as it's not complying with modern HO thinking. Assuming you're a member of a shooting orgasnisation, if you have problems getting the right condition, they'll help. If you're not a member of any then you should be.

 

If you don't have an open ticket, NEVER shoot on land that hasn't been cleared by the police. It's not sufficient that an open ticket holder says its suitable.

 

Whats this closed, semi open and open c r a p?

 

There's 2 kinds of certificate for shooting over land. One with the restrictive condition and one without it.

 

Hope this helps to confirm what others are saying.

 

I REALLY WISH THAT UNINFORMED PEOPLE WOULDN'T GIVE BAD ADVICE THAT COULD LOSE A PERSON HIS CERTIFICATE

Edited August 10, 2008 by DaveK

[bob300w]

If the conditions only relate to the one farm then that is the Only place that can be shot. If the conditions (as previously stated) have the land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police condition, then you can shoot on land that has been cleared BY THE POLICE. I find it strange that some FLO's still include the named land I suggest you challenge it as it's not complying with modern HO thinking. Assuming you're a member of a shooting orgasnisation, if you have problems getting the right condition, they'll help. If you're not a member of any then you should be.

 

If you don't have an open ticket, NEVER shoot on land that hasn't been cleared by the police. It's not sufficient that an open ticket holder says its suitable.

 

Whats this closed, semi open and open c r a p?

 

There's 2 kinds of certificate for shooting over land. One with the restrictive condition and one without it.

 

Hope this helps to confirm what others are saying.

It took a while to get there, but sanity has prevailed.

And if anybody is in doubt about where they can or cannot shoot, simply phone their FAO or HQ, it's that simple, do NOT rely on what a "bloke down the pub" said, it's not easy getting an FAC, but very easy to lose, and not complying with the conditions is the easiest way.

[DaveK]

If the conditions only relate to the one farm then that is the Only place that can be shot. If the conditions (as previously stated) have the land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police condition, then you can shoot on land that has been cleared BY THE POLICE. I find it strange that some FLO's still include the named land I suggest you challenge it as it's not complying with modern HO thinking. Assuming you're a member of a shooting orgasnisation, if you have problems getting the right condition, they'll help. If you're not a member of any then you should be.

 

If you don't have an open ticket, NEVER shoot on land that hasn't been cleared by the police. It's not sufficient that an open ticket holder says its suitable.

 

Whats this closed, semi open and open c r a p?

 

There's 2 kinds of certificate for shooting over land. One with the restrictive condition and one without it.

 

Hope this helps to confirm what others are saying.

It took a while to get there, but sanity has prevailed.

And if anybody is in doubt about where they can or cannot shoot, simply phone their FAO or HQ, it's that simple, do NOT rely on what a "bloke down the pub" said, it's not easy getting an FAC, but very easy to lose, and not complying with the conditions is the easiest way.

 

 

I added a bit while you were posting

[bob300w]

If the conditions only relate to the one farm then that is the Only place that can be shot. If the conditions (as previously stated) have the land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police condition, then you can shoot on land that has been cleared BY THE POLICE. I find it strange that some FLO's still include the named land I suggest you challenge it as it's not complying with modern HO thinking. Assuming you're a member of a shooting orgasnisation, if you have problems getting the right condition, they'll help. If you're not a member of any then you should be.

 

If you don't have an open ticket, NEVER shoot on land that hasn't been cleared by the police. It's not sufficient that an open ticket holder says its suitable.

 

Whats this closed, semi open and open c r a p?

 

There's 2 kinds of certificate for shooting over land. One with the restrictive condition and one without it.

 

Hope this helps to confirm what others are saying.

It took a while to get there, but sanity has prevailed.

And if anybody is in doubt about where they can or cannot shoot, simply phone their FAO or HQ, it's that simple, do NOT rely on what a "bloke down the pub" said, it's not easy getting an FAC, but very easy to lose, and not complying with the conditions is the easiest way.

 

 

I added a bit while you were posting

While I was posting? Jesus H, the time that it takes me to write a post with two fingers, you could have gone down the pub for a meal and six pints.

[markbivvy]

If the conditions only relate to the one farm then that is the Only place that can be shot. If the conditions (as previously stated) have the land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police condition, then you can shoot on land that has been cleared BY THE POLICE. I find it strange that some FLO's still include the named land I suggest you challenge it as it's not complying with modern HO thinking. Assuming you're a member of a shooting orgasnisation, if you have problems getting the right condition, they'll help. If you're not a member of any then you should be.

 

If you don't have an open ticket, NEVER shoot on land that hasn't been cleared by the police. It's not sufficient that an open ticket holder says its suitable.

 

Whats this closed, semi open and open c r a p?

 

There's 2 kinds of certificate for shooting over land. One with the restrictive condition and one without it.

 

Hope this helps to confirm what others are saying.

It took a while to get there, but sanity has prevailed.

And if anybody is in doubt about where they can or cannot shoot, simply phone their FAO or HQ, it's that simple, do NOT rely on what a "bloke down the pub" said, it's not easy getting an FAC, but very easy to lose, and not complying with the conditions is the easiest way.

 

 

I added a bit while you were posting

While I was posting? Jesus H, the time that it takes me to write a post with two fingers, you could have gone down the pub for a meal and six pints.

he has allready been.