mickdog Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 hello everyone just got a cocker pup not had a gun dog before just woundering if someone can put me in touch with a proffesional trainer or someone good with cockers around eastmidlands area i am based in derby thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Why? Train the dog yourself, its not difficult. Im saying that because I managed to do it. 20 mins a day is all that you need. My boy is now 18months old, he started beating last year and did a couple of days. Since then he has been out on the pigeons with me, he will retrieve with ease. OK he aint going to win championships, but Im not trialing him. As long as he stops, sits, waits, goes left and right and back. Picks up and brings it back, what more do you need. I got my dog off a bloke in Derby, his name was Dave. Someone on here put me on to him. It may have been MADSPRINGER. He should be able to assist you if you want to train. All I did was get a book - Spaniel Training and then read some of the stuff that NNTF put up on here. Dont belive what people say - COCKERS ARE HORRIBLE to train....................... If I can do it.....You should be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russuk Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Spot on Lancs Lad. There's no feeling like training your own dog and seeing the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinP Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Totally agree with Lancs Lad and Russuk, train the dog yourself, again if i can do it anyone can. It can be a very frustrating and trying process but if you take it slowly and keep your expectations realistic, the end result will be very fulfilling. Let him/her be a puppy but get the basics started as early as poss. I started all my beasts basics, ie sit, stay/wait and recalls around his meal times. Ask for advice on this forum as you will get some that is invaluable. As mentioned previously, there is no better feeling than seeing all those months of hard frustrating work paying off when he/she does what is asked to do in the field. Go for it, you'll surprise yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku Mike Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Could not agree more with the fella's comments above. Bloody soul destroying at times, but i learnt that loosing your rag is no good. Its all about time and . repetition, My spaniel Teague has now turned two, took the little fella duck shooting with me last night. Sent him for a duck i had trimmed out, Pitch black it was. I was bit worried because i could'nt see him but no need brought it back in a flash, I thought i was pleased about that, Then i saw my mate and another chap hunting for a duck with a dog, they had no joy. My mate was guttered he said the other dog could'nt find it it was to heavy and dense. So i offered my boys services nervously. No need to be nervous though totally blind retreive and he was back with the teal in about a minute. Needless to say I was as proud as proud, and i enjoyed him more than my shooting last night. It was so nice when everyone commented what a fantastic gundog i had and they were fussing around him. Take the peoples advice and have a go, it will be the best thing you could possibly do. Regards Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadSpringer Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Lancs it was my dog that sired the litter and it's great to hear your young dog is turning out well for you Mick Cockers are not difficult to train, you just need to think like one, everything has to be fun. They can be frustrating and rewarding all within seconds but always remain calm and you will enjoy the experience! Keep sessions short and interesting, be consistant, stay calm, make it fun so you both enjoy the training Get yourself a good training book and DVD, Simon Tyers DVD is a good one (Hawcroft Gundogs) Expensive but worth it. If you want advice or meet up anytime let me know, you're not many miles from me. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallarben Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 could do wirse than go and see simon for advice straight talking man not up his self like some trainers always remembers were he came from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 I agree train your dog yourself, if you do need a little help see a trainer for a one to one lesson for an hour each week or when you need the help . Thats what i done with my first springer, i saw Chris Upton who is a top bloke down here in Cornwall and it did help me with the training Try looking for a trainer on http://www.thegundogclub.co.uk/ or the BASC website. Remember its ment to be fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris921 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 i train my cocker and am friends with simon tyers his dvd is well worth the money mate if you go on his website hawcroft gundogs you can get more info there good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x38 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 DONT RUSH HIM LET IT BE A PUP AND DONT GO TO THE NEXT COMAND TILL HE CAN DO THE FIRST ONE [sAT ON IS HEAD] START HIM ON THE LEAD SO ON SO ON .IF YOU GET STUCK GIVE ME A PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossenarra Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Could not agree more with the fella's comments above. Bloody soul destroying at times, but i learnt that loosing your rag is no good. Its all about time and . repetition, My spaniel Teague has now turned two, took the little fella duck shooting with me last night. Sent him for a duck i had trimmed out, Pitch black it was. I was bit worried because i could'nt see him but no need brought it back in a flash, I thought i was pleased about that, Then i saw my mate and another chap hunting for a duck with a dog, they had no joy. My mate was guttered he said the other dog could'nt find it it was to heavy and dense. So i offered my boys services nervously. No need to be nervous though totally blind retreive and he was back with the teal in about a minute. Needless to say I was as proud as proud, and i enjoyed him more than my shooting last night. It was so nice when everyone commented what a fantastic gundog i had and they were fussing around him. Take the peoples advice and have a go, it will be the best thing you could possibly do. Regards Mike That must have been brilliant seeing your dog doing so well, will be buying a springer sometime early next year and will start training for the first time...lil bit nervie of the prospect but the mails above give could encouragement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snozzer Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 When I trained my ESS, I found the best way was short sessions but very disciplined focusing on one aspect of his training. The other thing I did was to train him in a different location everyday so he didn't associate the training and location as being the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallarben Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 my dear old grandad always trained his own dogs and brought me up that if a dog was having a bad day butit away and try again later no point tring to train a dog when ur wound up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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