cooke103 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 i agree too, but because i often lamp on my own i use both. i scan the field with a hand held lamp and when i spot the quarry i use a lamp on top of the gun to shoot it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn9914 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 vulcha accourding to my local firearms officer there is no minimum land requirement for a rim fire a lot depends like you say on roads and footpaths etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted December 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 vulcha accourding to my local firearms officer there is no minimum land requirement for a rim fire a lot depends like you say on roads and footpaths etc Oh right. I was told you need a minimun of 300 acres to shoot on if you wanted a rimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon-Boy Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 You gotta remember a rimmy will fire for at least a mile if the round is not interupted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 And still have enough power to kill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Vulcha, I don't expect it would kill you at that distance, but if you were unlucky enough to catch it in the eye you'd go blind PP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Whats the killing range on one of those then? Wouldn't you only be able to fire it downhill or in valleys or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ROBSON Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Vulcha,I don't like lamps on guns. You have to pouint the gun at something to see if you want to shot it or not. If you think '******, there's a person', you make that decision whilst pointing a loaded weapon at them!! We often use both, the powerful hand lamp for scanning the field then when we spot the fox/rabbit use the less powerful one on the rifle. it can be better that way when you have a lot of lamp shy quarry and it's also easy to do if you are out on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon-Boy Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Whats the killing range on one of those then? Wouldn't you only be able to fire it downhill or in valleys or something? No because when you shoot at a rabbit or something, the angle you fire at is always downward at a slight angle, therefore the shot's back stop will be the floor. With rimmy's you should be using expanding ammunition for this type of quarry there for even if the bullet hits a twig it will disintigrate the bullet rendering it non leathal(within reason) for the rest of its travel. Rimmy's effective range are about 75 - 100 yards, sure you can kill beyond this distance but you'd have to be james bond to make these kinda shots. They are are nice bit of kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 There is a recorded case of a .22 rimfire killing a human at a mile. If i remember correctly Eley ammo used to have words to that effect on the box! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 Am I correct in guessing a "rimmy" is a .22 live round? Familiar (ish) with the round as I used to target shoot in the cadets but not used to the expression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowman Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 a buddy of mine has a farm, he has a road running right down it . one side of the road has 12 acres, the other he has 150, if he gets gripped shoothing a rimmy on there, he will get 4 years in the slammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Am I correct in guessing a "rimmy" is a .22 live round?Familiar (ish) with the round as I used to target shoot in the cadets but not used to the expression A rim fire is not just .22 but that is the most popular callibre. A rim fire has the primer that initiates the firing of the main charge stored in its rim, when the rim is struck and crushed the primer detonates igniting the main charge. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Am I correct in guessing a "rimmy" is a .22 live round?Familiar (ish) with the round as I used to target shoot in the cadets but not used to the expression A rim fire is not just .22 but that is the most popular callibre. A rim fire has the primer that initiates the firing of the main charge stored in its rim, when the rim is struck and crushed the primer detonates igniting the main charge. Dave Thanks! I have never come across any other calibre but now I'll keep my eyes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 .17HMR! Hornady Magnum Rimfire Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveo Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 What i did was buy a cheap 6v rechargeable hand held lamp (£5) and buy a 12ah 6v battery (£25). Its cheap, good light from it and will last for ages. But now have a Deben Mini but still use the cheap jobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Had the bargain of a lifetime!!! Picked up a second hand Deben lamp for 35 English pounds. I had been looking on e-bay etc and the prices were getting silly. This one was from a gunshop!! (Andersons in East Grinstead) Blinding (pardon the pun) bit of kit. All I need to do now is get out and use it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebedee71 Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Try and either find or make a Lamp with a dimmer switch and keep the light as low (brightness) as possible. It does 2 things for you. It makes you battery last a bit longer and secondly it isn't as likely to spook the rabbits out at a further range. Someone else gave good advice also by switching it on while it is pointing up it's less likely to spook the rabbits. Oh and try and ese the edge of the beam rather than the centre. Scan the layout the day before so you have a good general idea of the area. Sweep with your lamp from one direction IE from right to left slowly. When you get a rabbit in the left edge of the beam STOP. take your shot and switch the lamp off till you are reloaded. Then back on pointing up and slowly lower to the point you just took your rabbit at and follow on as before sweep right to left. Lamping is more like an art. The more you practice the better you get at it. You may want to try a filter too if the rabbits are a bit lamp Shy. When walking from one place to the other switch off the lamp (and make sure the Gun aint loaded!!!) just incase you trip! no one wants a pellet in the *** beleive me it hurts i know. . The best info i can give is spend a bit of time scouting the area durin the day and find a few good comunal warrens where loads of rabbits sit. When you know where they are i reccomend sitting and waiting them out. You need minimal light for this but a good objective lens on the scope or open sights. Moon light is great for this. Once you pick one off just wait till they come out again and take another. I find you generally get about 4 good shots in till they get too warey. Then move on to the next warren. And when you are done if you don't have enough to show for it spend the time walking back to your can Lamping. Just a few pointers i hope you enjoy yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 (edited) Hello all, im new to the forum so i hope my bit of advice helps. Im fairly new to lamping myself, have been after fox and rabbit for 3 years now on my own and with a friend. Safety is definately the number 1 factor when going out as we dont want any more tradgedies like the ones recently publicised with people getting shot. My advice regarding lamps would be to buy the best lamp you can afford now and get one designed for shooting. Personally I think the draper models etc are ok but the beem pattern isnt great and you will struggle to get a filter which you will find you deffinately need in time. I would recommend that you take a look at the lightforce models (the 170) is brilliant or clusen engineering's range. I use a gun lamp on the scope for rabits its a Deben tracer mini pro with adjustable brightness, if you go for this model you will need decent optics so that they gather the light in effectively otherwise when you turn the brightness down you wont see a thing. I have a simmons white tail classic 3.5-10 x 50 on my rimmy and find it is just good enough. Take a look at these sights www.deben.com www.cluson.co.uk Hope this helps and appologies for the spelling (I never went to school) Chris Edited February 22, 2005 by Shogun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jouped Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 is that true it will still be leathfull over a mile is that with subsonic aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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