nerooo Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 i have been shooting some partridges and hares for years with my father,and now is time for me to have my own gun,i do some clay shooting sometimes with rental guns,but i would be more interested with game shooting(pigeon,partridges,rabitt,fuesant,hares,,etc...),i dont mind buy two guns one for clays and other for birds 12 (gauge),as i am confused what to purchase ,my budget is 1500 pounds for both of them and i dont mind second hand.my father suggest me to get semiauto for the game and over under for clays but semi auto seem unwanted from majority of shooters i dont know the reason why as i quite like it,please if you are profissional i would expect you to direct me to the right guns,for example the good makers,as i am aware of the right gun is the one fit well.any help it will be really very appriciated.thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussman Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 If I were you I would buy a Beretta Silver Pigeon or a Browning B525. Spend the rest of your money accessories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p-a-s Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 or buy a sporter,cheapest option i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Don't buy a gun because its made by XX manufacturer, or because your mates got one and shoots well with it, or because it has fantastic wood. The best gun is ALWAYS the gun that fits you and you feel comfortable with. Yes, there are lots who don't like the S-A, but equally there are thousands out there who swear by them, for both game and clays. If you want to hit more, don't be influenced by what the purist says the average Joe should have, but buy what is going to work for you. The best way is to try all options by taking some lessons with a coach who can provide a choice of U/O, S/O. S/S and has a good target variety available. You will soon come to a personal conclusion about which type of gun you want for clays / game or the different disciplines or game situations. As a more informed shooter, you will be far more likely to pick the right gun / guns for yourself. Remember, a £100 Baikal that fits you will get more kills than a £5,000 Perazzi that doesn't. £1500 is a good budget, and you can get a clean 2nd/h Remi 11-87 S-A, a Berreta SP U/O or similar gun, and still have enough for a cheepie S/S within the budget! There is also the thought that when acquiring a first gun, buy a gun strictly with the intention of making it a second / spare gun later or selling / trading it in. Buying a beginner gun, say a Lanber / Laurona or similar 2nd/h will set you back around the £300-400 mark. Shoot with it for 6 months and you will very much learn what you want in the ultimate gun that you spend a grand or more on. If you rush out with your £1500 and get the wrong gun it could be an expensive mistake, while second hand starter guns will always be sale-able again for what you paid as long as the condition remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Don't buy a gun because its made by XX manufacturer, or because your mates got one and shoots well with it, or because it has fantastic wood. The best gun is ALWAYS the gun that fits you and you feel comfortable with. Yes, there are lots who don't like the S-A, but equally there are thousands out there who swear by them, for both game and clays. If you want to hit more, don't be influenced by what the purist says the average Joe should have, but buy what is going to work for you. The best way is to try all options by taking some lessons with a coach who can provide a choice of U/O, S/O. S/S and has a good target variety available. You will soon come to a personal conclusion about which type of gun you want for clays / game or the different disciplines or game situations. As a more informed shooter, you will be far more likely to pick the right gun / guns for yourself. Remember, a £100 Baikal that fits you will get more kills than a £5,000 Perazzi that doesn't. £1500 is a good budget, and you can get a clean 2nd/h Remi 11-87 S-A, a Berreta SP U/O or similar gun, and still have enough for a cheepie S/S within the budget! There is also the thought that when acquiring a first gun, buy a gun strictly with the intention of making it a second / spare gun later or selling / trading it in. Buying a beginner gun, say a Lanber / Laurona or similar 2nd/h will set you back around the £300-400 mark. Shoot with it for 6 months and you will very much learn what you want in the ultimate gun that you spend a grand or more on. If you rush out with your £1500 and get the wrong gun it could be an expensive mistake, while second hand starter guns will always be sale-able again for what you paid as long as the condition remains. Good advise . Having said that i wouldnt mind missing a few with a £5 ,000 Perazzi . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pair away Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 top advise from clayman spot on , try as many as you can and make your own mind up with the help of a good coach not the guy in the gun shop whos trying to shift stock off his shelves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) Well my £5,000 Perrazi keeps missing things - anybody got a £100 Baikal that hits everything? I'd be interested in it as I'm sure its the gun thats missing things - not me! Edited November 23, 2008 by clayman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerooo Posted November 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 if you think of it deeply then you ll find out you should look for trust maker gun and see which one it ll fit you from their range,like this you ll have good quality and the same time the gun fit you well,dont you think so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Get a Browning 525 classic game 12g! I have just got as my first gun and it shoots great. Great for clays and equally good at any sort of game. Make sure it fits though as its quite a big gun. If not go for the 525 sporter as its a bit smaller and lighter. If not a Beretta 686e may be good. Toby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 absolutely no need to spend 1,500 on a shotgun, as long as it fits you and its in good nic its fine, i wouldnt pay anything above 400, otherwise your basically paying for some nice wood anda brand name! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 if you think of it deeply then you ll find out you should look for trust maker gun and see which one it ll fit you from their range,like this you ll have good quality and the same time the gun fit you well,dont you think so? Well, thats true, but do you yet know what good gun fit is. Probably 80% of the people who come to me mount the gun and then fit their face and body to it, not many actually understand that if the gun does actually fit, the body/ face in a prepared position to receive the gun does not move at all. With your stance correct, eye on the target, and body prepared the gun simply rises to hit the shoulder and cheek at the same time, and the eye is perfectly aligned on the rib at that moment - see the lead and fire. Most newbie shooters ( and a lot of "experienced" ones) do not have enough knowledge of correct gun fit to select a correct gun in the first place. Most will take a std gun and fit themselves around it, then announce it fits them. Nooooo..oo. While you can get your eye in the perfect place by mounting the gun and adjusting your eye to the correct place on the rib, all this says is that your mount / stance and or gun fit needs improvement yet. Seriously, when you have tried 10 guns, shot 10,000 cartridges, and had 10 lessons from a good coach - then and not before will you be in a position to know what fits and what doesn't on your own. Till then take advice, and good advice is to get yourself a sub £500-00 gun now and LEARN LOTS before spending £1500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHunter Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Tobyb535 has hit the nail on the head, stick with a Beretta or Bowning. Go for a secondhand as you can save a small fortune. Above all make sure it fits, if it doesn't you could spend as much as you like and won't hit a thing. No need for two guns as if you can hit the target it doesn't matter what it is, clay or game, just change the size of shot used. Happy hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerooo Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 all what you said it gives meaning i a really happy to have some expensive advice from you, i will follow the instruction and advice i have been given by you,as i dont need to spend forune for gun and then regret because it doesnt fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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