pair away

its the best one !!!

i had some and have used them with no problems what so ever !

i got a good browing one off ebay brand new and tagged with built in reactar pad for about £25 ( from usa ) and im chuffed with it as you see them on there for twice the price .

if you contact the police and ask for a list of your convictions ( you have to pay for this ) they will print them out for you so there is no problems remembering dates etc even if it was 30 years ago , this would have saved him time and a world of trouble .

you can get them in the UK as i saw some at kelmarsh last weekend , but i can not remember the name of the shop , noticed in other posts your not going to catton this weekend but if i see any i will get some info and PM you if you dont have any luck.

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the guy shooting sounds like fred dibner

if i could only help myself , shot like a T@*T on sunday

tried one at doveridge last year , no better than my old 391 for 5 times the money , over priced gimick

top pics mate , looks like you had a good morning .

nice to meet you , try guntrader there will be plenty of prices on there mate .

will be there on sat , and if its basc coaching they do the lot , plugs , glasses , vest , gun fit , mount etc etc for about £15 .

Clayman is spot on here , had the same problem when my wife started shooting , she started with a 391 semiauto but found the saftey / triger set up a little fiddley , she now shoots a 28 inch 686 with a shortened stock and a kick eez pad in 12g with 24g shells , with no problems , she tried an ultralight but found it was to light for her .

doveridge is a good ground , i understand you have been today and all was well , it can be a different story depending on what day you go on , we went in a group last year and in around 3 hours we had nearly 200 no birds and alot of traps with only one bird working , there was no problems when we told them this at the club house and the no birds were knocked off the bill and problem traps attended to , sunday is a busy day for them so its in their own interest to get it right , in short im not knocking the ground but the service is not this good every day .

fingers crossed.

all new brownings/ mirokus are invector plus chokes dont no about the winchesters ? the older browning/mirokus had invector chokes and these were the same as "winchokes " you can tell the difference between invector and invector plus from a mile off as the invector plus are twice the lenght off the invectors , if you go on the winchester web site it should tell you if they are plus chokes .

i have never used the rc game loads but i used to use victory clay loads all the time untill their price went stupid , they are a good shell and you should have not problems with them .

my wife had a similar problem a few years back ,in that she would not shoot a shotgun because she was hurt by recoil it took me 3 years to get her to hold a gun and when she did an instructor we use got her to use a semi auto ( 20g ) with sub sonic ammo , it worked as she now shoots a 12g o/u with 24g shells with out problems ( with recoil ) , good luck .

if they can treat their own dogs like that they should have more than some of their wages stopped , make you wonder what they would try if the had you in the cells ?.

ive got a mk70 and im very pleased with it , but if i was buying again i would go for the mk38 sporter , a mate has one and in my opinion its a better gun .

Baldrick is correct in what he says in that it all has an affect on how you mount the gun and in the end how you shoot , you may have noticed a difference in your scores in summer and winter( not as much as losing 2 stone )this can be because you have less layers on in summer and they will affect your mount and gun fit.

i dont no if this is what you are after but there is a write up in this months clay shooting mag , for a finger guard and you can get it from attleborough accessories 01953 454932 or www.attacc.com . hope yhis does the trick . Cheers Pa .

in that case , your post said mainly for pigeons and i would go with the semi , and you can still use it on clays ,try guntrader as you can search by type and price this will give you a better idea of whats out there in your price range , this is just my opinion so lets not have another beretta V beneli rant , the M2 is a top gun but for £ 500 you should be able to get a 391 . good luck and happy shooting

why not have a lesson with a good coach , if he/she is any good the should have different types of gun you can try and then you can make your mind up when you have tried the different types for your self .

fishbomb bet that sunburn stung as much as the tat .