evilstoat Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I just got my gun cabinet (cheers ciderboy) and have been racking my brains where to install it...i was going to install it under the stairs which was my ideal placing...when i positioned the cabinet against the wall there was intermittent gaps of about 3-4 mm down the side of it as the wall in not plastered there just painted...i don't want the FAO thinking it could be jemmied off the wall We have a 1930's house with a larder, but the dishwasher is in there, i could mount it above, but is it ok to mount them that far off the floor, plus it's a bit damp having two outside walls in there. the other option is in our bedroom, but i don't want to remove skirting, could i mount above it, and does the cabinet have to be in the corner as i won't be able to open the door if this is the case. I thought it would be easy once i got the cabinet...but it's a bit trickier than i thought to mount it where it won't be moved...or hindered by the wife keep swapping furniture around...lol your thoughts please chaps ATB Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Best bet is to wait for the FAO to come and he will tell you where he thinks it will be best placed. He may be fine with under the stairs providing the attachments are secure enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Wait till the FEO comes and take his/her advice. No point in mucking up the decor only to have to move it when they visit. As long as they are satisfied you will put it where they say they usually are happy for you to certify its in place and wont need to revisit to verify that, or since it will be a good few days or weeks before the SGC is issued, there is plenty of time for them to return while paperwork is being dealt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 To be honest if you use the recomended M10 rawl type bolts 'good luck' to anyone trying to jemmy it off the wall... I fixed mine to an slightly uneven wall and had no problems whatsoever with the FEO. You might want to use a bead of 'no more nails' or silicone of similar to fill the gap between the wall and back of cabinate, if not purely for asthetics. The other alternative, and posibly more ideal, is to use a sand and cement mix to fil the gaps, once the cabinate is fixed to the wall (if you want to make it really secure put fine granite in the sand/cement mix to make it less chisel'able) I really would'nt worry to much as long as you use the M10 Rawl Bolts x 4 at least (16mm holes in the wall). The finish with sand and cement would be a nice touch though and would show the FEO that you are security consious. Ps. you can get said rawl bolts from screwfit for £3.80 for 5 (dont get the long ones - you only need the ones that have a 10mm grab) ie http://www.screwfix.com/prods/20828/Fixing...-10mm-Pack-of-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seisobs Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Mine is in the loft bolted on to the gable end brick wall, a bit of a pain getting into the loft but at least it's well out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilstoat Posted December 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 just been next door to have a look at my friends cabinet, as it's the same layout and walls, he has his in the downstairs toilet behind the door...his wall is the same, and under the stairs. he said his got passed no probs will have another look at locations tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Spillane Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Be aware that the cabinet must be secured on the bottom and the rear, added to that the rawl bolts or sleeve anchors will blow breeze blocks. If your interior walls are made of blocks as opposed to bricks then use threaded bar and Chem fast compound. Drill the holes with the safe lined up in position fill the holes with the compound insert the threaded bars in each hole and allow a few minutes (I do mean minutes) for it to set. You may now cut the bars to length, with the safe removed from situ. re-dress the threaded bar with a needle file so the nuts will run down easily. re-install the safe on the bars and torque down the nuts onto spring washers and penny washers. It is hard work but when the FEO comes to inspect you will have a confident smile when he tries to pull it off the wall. Discrete concealment is also important the safe should not be visible to a casual visitor so upstairs or inside a cupboard is ideal. These are the guidelines given to me by the safe manufacturers, in my case Brattonsound. Good luck Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I dont think that the cabinet MUST be fixed on the base too - mine isn't. 4 M10 threaded bars chem-anchored in to the thermo blocks holds mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I dont think that the cabinet MUST be fixed on the base too - mine isn't. 4 M10 threaded bars chem-anchored in to the thermo blocks holds mine! same here mine a foot above the skirting board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urikastu Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 As long as it's securely fixed to the wall in such a place, that is not in your face, as you enter your house it's OK. There must be no gaps at the back, so prybars cannot be used easily. Obviously if burgulars want to use hammer and chisels, then they will succeed in removing it but that would be a noisy afair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Spillane Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 You may well be correct chaps I'm a bit of a belt and braces type myself so always found it easier to pre-empt the obvious query with regard to security, ie you can't have too much. Good luck with your application though. Kindest regards Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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