webby86 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) I have just spoke to my FEO and tolld him i am applying for a FAC.After explain to him my situattion he tolld me not to go for 17HMR.He tolld me i can have 22LR or 22MAGNUM.Which one do u think is better.I will only use it for rabbitin and foxes. Edited February 11, 2009 by webby86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 .22LR is the perfect rabbiting rifle, but very limited for foxing unless it is in the hands of an experienced Shot. You are unlikely to be permitted to shoot foxes with the .22LR unless you really are limited to just one rifle. The .22WMR is quite comparable rare, and expensive and noisy to run. As a calbre, it is perfectly capable of dropping a fox. It has been superceded by the .17HMR to a degree, but the .22WMR is a superior foxing round. Consider the quantities of rabbits and foxes you hope to shoot, the land you will be shooting on, and whether one rifle will do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 he doesn't sound like he knows his **** from his elbow As a first rifle the hmr is far superior, you have far less chance of ricochets, you don't worry about holdover etc What was it about your situation that made him think it was unsuitable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webby86 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 He did not give me a reason why he just said dont go for 17HMR but u can go for 22LR or 22MAGNUM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) the FEO must need his head seeing to if he's happy with .22WMR but not .17HMR! I'd have a word with him, and if you don't get anywhere speak to BASC Edited February 11, 2009 by nickbeardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 22WMR and 17HMR both a place imo. .22mag is excellent for foxing, 17 for rabbits .22lr is good where you need noice to a minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 are you in northern Ireland, and are you under th age of 18? I'm asking because there is a line on the psni website that says "a young person over the age of 16 but under the age of 18 may be granted a .22 rimfire, or an air rifle, or a shotgun...." Or words to that effect. I know its going to cause me a few headaches when I go to apply in a couple of months. hope you get it sorted out mate all the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 i have 1 of each they all have there uses if ya want longer range bunnies and fox 22.wmr if ya want a quite gun get the .22lr dont listen to those that say the .22wmr isnt any good or ya cant get ammo or there expensive to run .or whatever else they say unless you have 1 and can stand them side by side and compare them there isnt much difference some pros and cons for ya to think about .22lr pro cheap ammo accurate very quite with subs cons limited to range not really suitable for fox 17hmr pros less ricochets (but they do ricochet) very flat very accurate long range rabbiter will shoot out to 200yards cons affected by wind noisey meat damage .22wmr pros have a good selection of ammo from 32-50grain ammo ammo cheaper than .17hmr more ftlb at the muzzle can be just as accurate to 100yards more suited to foxing less affected by wind will shoot out to 200yards cons noisey meat damage if used on rabbits hope this helps abit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 don't get me wrong - i'm not knocking .22WMR - it's a great round - i was just amazed that the FLO would grant it but not .17HMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) some flo dont know there head from there **** a m8 just put in for 17hmr and .22lr was told he wasnt alloud 17hmr so asked if he could have .17m2 was told "i dont know the ballistics for them" its his ******* job toknow them Edited February 14, 2009 by SPARKIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick O'Shea Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 In my opinion .22lr for the rabbits and .17hmr for fox but stick to 125 yrds max with the .17hmr and around 75 yrds with the .22lr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 99% of flo will disagree with that statement.........im not saying .17hmr wont kill foxs as it will but it aint no foxing round get it wrong and ya could end up with mr fox wounded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick O'Shea Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Sparkie, your right it aint a true fox round - but with bullet placement in the engine room and the vmax 17 grain bullet it puts them straight down upto 100 yrds or so. My point was that the .22lr and .17hmr will cover most scenarios for someone just starting out. I would suggest after your first 3 years experience to go for a variation with a .22 centrefire on your ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) SPARKIE: with your cz rifles how does the accuracy compare between your cz .17hmr and your cz .22 mag @ 100 yds? under average conditions how do they compare? (i would suspect yhat the heavier .22 mag might buck the wind better) i noticed that you have a .223 rifle---how would you compare the kills with that vs. the .22 mag on fox. Edited February 15, 2009 by deadeye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 deadeye you cant really compare a .22WMR to a .223, they will both down fox but the .223 will be far better for it at longer ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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