Raja Clavata Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hi All, So, interested in putting in a variation for a 22-250 and have a couple of, hopefully not too daft, questions ... If I'm shooting on land that's approved for .22 then would this automatically cover centrefires in that calibre in addition to rimmies or are there other factors that have to be taken into account? My justification for the 22-250 would be for longer range vermin control than is achievable with the .22lr and .17hmr - any idea if this is likely to be acceptable? Of course, the next step will be to speak to the FEO but I am just wanting to gauge the experience / opinions of others in advance, I like to be as prepared as I can be when dealing in such matters. Thanks in advance Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 My 22-250 in Cambs is definitely fox only, and zeroing. I've never thought to apply for vermin for it, though I doubt it would be granted. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosa Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 No .22 land would not be covered for the 22 250. It will need to bu surveyed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Mike, I have a .22-250 for vermin, ground game, fox and muntjac. Following the recent ACPO ruling, Essex Police seem quite happy to put condition centrefires for vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 If I'm shooting on land that's approved for .22 then would this automatically cover centrefires in that calibre in addition to rimmies or are there other factors that have to be taken into account? My justification for the 22-250 would be for longer range vermin control than is achievable with the .22lr and .17hmr - any idea if this is likely to be acceptable? Of course, the next step will be to speak to the FEO but I am just wanting to gauge the experience / opinions of others in advance, I like to be as prepared as I can be when dealing in such matters. Thanks in advance Mike You will need the land approved up to 22-250, just because the bullet is the same size, the power will differ from gun to gun, therefore it will need to be signed off to at least that calibre. I wouldn't say 'longer range vermin control' as it would be deemed that you are shooting vermin at sensible ranges, not 300yards +, as at this range, you cannot guarantee a clean kill. (you will open a can of worms saying that on here...!) If you want a reason to get the centrefire, just put fox and vermin and just say that you feel that a .17HMR is not powerful enough to cleanly kill a fox at 150 yards, simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Mike, you are very unlikely to get a .17 HMR approved for fox in Essex, having asked myself. I believe Essex has a blanket policy of no rimfires for fox (except .22 WMR). If it's any consolation, each time I put in a variation and sit down for the usual chinwag with my FEO, the paperwork ends up covered in scribble and amendments by the time the meeting is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 i'm with HarfordWMJ on the long range vermin front - better off asking for fox, mutjac and vermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I had a discussion with an essex gunshop owner on this calibre and apparently Essex licensing hate it. They will throw a .223 at you no probs, but first time center fire in something as tasty as .222 or .22-250 is likely to see strings attached and be griefy. Ask for a .223 and a .243, they understand this and you will get both on first application with no probs although the land will need a check / survey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Mungler has a point: bear in mind that many FEOs lack practical experience of sporting arms. They often just follow precedent and guidelines, and don't actually discern between calibres like a knowledgeable Shot would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted April 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks for all the replies chaps. I'm in need of a rethink then; I'm actually covered by Met where I am which I think makes things even worse than Essex. My FEO wouldn't even discuss the notion of a FAC shottie with me. The land I had in mind is within Met boundaries too. I have informal pest control (using shotgun) permission on perhaps as much as 1000 acres in Essex but the farmer goes very quiet whenever I mention rifles. This is leading me to suspect that as a tenant farmer (on the majority of the land he farms) he can OK me for pest control but not actually grant me permission formally for anything else. Shame really as there are other people on a couple of the farms, supposedly with permission from the land-owner, shooting .223, .22-250 and .243. Best get looking for any syndicate shoots that would give me the just cause for a centre-fire with the land pre-approved. Thanks again Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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