Epic Fail Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 ive just had new permissions off a farmer to shoot .22 and shotgun and air rifle on his land he has : foxes birds rats rabbits what am i legally allowed to shoot with a .22 ?? am i allowed to shoot foxes with them he has only signed the permissions for .22 and shotguns and air rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 what are the conditions on your FAC please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 i havent sent in the variation yet i want to know before i send it this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 a .22 fac rimfire will no doubt kill a fox,but depends what distance your talking. i have shot foxes with .22 at 40 yds,and dropped them on the spot,but personally wouldnt reccomend it,they can run off if bullet not spot on the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 well i will be applying for 2 sound moderators i was hoping to apply for a 17hmr but his land hasnt been passed for it so im stuck with .22lr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 I dont know if your licensing authority will allow .22RF for fox. but the rest of the list would be covered by the vermin condition, and or pest control or a condition your area favour. Apply and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 okay thanks but shotguns are allowed for foxes though right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Legal yes, but use big shot and get close otherwise you risk wounding . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 okay thanks but shotguns are allowed for foxes though right ? Yes they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) okay thanks but shotguns are allowed for foxes though right ? they are. Edited May 10, 2009 by markbivvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 what kind of cardradges would be best ? i have some 5s any good ?? and what 22 rounds would be best expanding or subsonic ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 what kind of cardradges would be best ? i have some 5s any good ?? and what 22 rounds would be best expanding or subsonic ? you might like to do a little reading before the visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 ive already got my licences but i thought you could get .22 rounds that expand for more damage and subsonic so they are a little quieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Errrrrrrrrrrrr. Come on. It's not just me is it? Strange days eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 me thinks we got a complete novice here or somebodies taking the p--s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 ive never shot rougn with rifles before only targets so i am new to the whole concept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 ive already got my licences but i thought you could get .22 rounds that expand for more damage ?? Are you sure you have a ticket, BJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 ah i get it tame the mick of the new guy thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 i was hoping to apply for a 17hmr but his land hasnt been passed for it It has if you are allowed a .22 on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 are you sure ? 12hmr is a lot more powerfull than 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 im going for a cold shower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 their both rimfires mate,and usually a 17 hmr is a bit safer than .22 cos they dont ricochet like a .22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 we all have to learn somehow. Leave out the abuse for a bit guys. For foxes, with a 12bore I would reccomend anything bigger than #1 shot.... AAA or BB would be better, and more than 36grams of it please. Kepp your ranged under 40ish yards and be ready for a runner. As for the .22: Expanding ammuniton either has a cavity, soft point or polymer tip over a cavity to force the round to 'mushroom' (open up) on impact so that the maximum amount of energy is transferd. Subsonic ammunition travels at less that 330 ms-1, so not to 'break the sound barrier' and make a crack. When used with a good moderator and bolt action rifle, the only sound you will hear is lead on vermin. You should use High Velocity rounds for foxes if your ticket allows you to take them and again, one to the boiler room will do the trick, but keep ranges under 70odd yards and make sure you are ready to send a follow up down range ASAP after you have taken the shot, and it is safe to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) what kind of cardradges would be best ? i have some 5s any good ?? and what 22 rounds would be best expanding or subsonic ? I think people use subsonics for general purpose 22LR usage, e.g. rabbits, crows ect..however if you go out specificaly for fox then try and get a high velocity round that is accurate in your gun becuase you want as much energy as possible if your taking a fox with a 22LR. Winchester or eley subsonics are a firm favourite As for the shotgun then use a heavy weight of shot, about 36-50g should do it ..and use large pellets, e.g. No.1 or smaller ..also do not use steel pellets, they carry less density per pellet so less weight per pellet, becuase of this they do not penetrate as much as lead pellets Steve Edited May 10, 2009 by stevethevanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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