viking Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 a mate of mine is after a camo semi for pigeon shooting, he wants a new one but is on a budget so he was asking me whats the best of the 2, now im not sure but i said i know a few who will, so any comments will be most welcome, cheers, Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 a mate of mine is after a camo semi for pigeon shooting, he wants a new one but is on a budget so he was asking me whats the best of the 2, now im not sure but i said i know a few who will, so any comments will be most welcome, cheers, Lee They are both the same gun! Tell him to buy a 2nd hand Beretta etc!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 second hand beretta semi auto in camo for £350-£400, where do you get them from then. im fully aware thet a second hand beretta is better that either of the 2 mentioned, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 (edited) second hand beretta semi auto in camo for £350-£400, where do you get them from then. im fully aware thet a second hand beretta is better that either of the 2 mentioned, I've no idea, i don't live in Yorkshire, but the semi's you mentioned are in fact the same gun only branded differently so tell your mate to buy the cheapest or buy it from the dealer giving him the most free shells with it! Or you could buy a 2nd hand beretta etc and put a camo sock on it. Edited May 16, 2009 by GW80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 My mate`steve b wales`got an Escort and i gotta say it`s a cracking gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 I've no idea, i don't live in Yorkshire, but the semi's you mentioned are in fact the same gun only branded differently so tell your mate to buy the cheapest or buy it from the dealer giving him the most free shells with it! Or you could buy a 2nd hand beretta etc and put a camo sock on it. i know what your saying pal, but a camo stock doesnt make it a camo gun. and im sure the only beretta camo semies are the urika and extrema and even second hand are out of price, i know escorts are sort of ok and some say there ****, but recently on hear iv heard of a couple of exploding barrels so thats put me of recomending them to him, yet my mates some has a 20 bore escort and its a sound little gun and hardly ever jams, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejase Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 My webley & scott never let me down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) My webley & scott never let me down Bought one for the lad but still to big in the stock for him ,but having shot this alot myself with all the shells i have from small loads to 3" it has never once jammed Edited May 17, 2009 by magman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) The W&S has a different loading pattern to the Escort, The Escort bolt release is on the LHS and has to be depressed when loading shells into the magazine to allow the gate to function. The W&S has the bolt release on the RHS and has a free running gate. The Escort is all fingers and thumbs to load whereas the W&S loads like a Beretta (minus the magazine cut off, which the escort has). And the Escort does feel more agricultural when firing. (you seem to feel the bolt moving rearwards and hear it a lot more) So in my opinion they are not the same gun (purely due to the loading internals) Id go with the W&S Thats what i found when i tried both side by side last week. (i must add that the W&S was an 810 - the older one) Edited May 17, 2009 by ph5172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Not wanting to hijack the thread but: I was thinking of getting the W&S. Does anyone know who is the cheapest? Cheers Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 you'll pick up an escort for half what you will a beretta - fired 250 carts with mine in one go without issue. loading it is easy - load first cart in and release the bolt, turn it upside down and feed the other two in - no issue at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev 1 Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Same as above...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 just why do people need cammo guns? Plastic stock makes sense for a knockabout gun but surley cammo makes no diference to how many pigeons or geese you shoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted May 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 why do peolpe get a grade 5 wood when they can get standard, why pay £4000+ for the same gun but fancy engraving, personal choice i suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow mag Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 tell your mate to get the escort. mine has never let me down. dont cost much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Winchester sx2 or sx3 Better than the wembleys and escorts. Should pick one up for around £500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I think webley is a uk company, it would be nice to support a uk company for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Winchester sx2 or sx3 Better than the wembleys and escorts. Should pick one up for around £500 Before owning a webley i would agree but the webley has not missed a beat and i cannot fault it at all Have you ever owned a webley or escort ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Before owning a webley i would agree but the webley has not missed a beat and i cannot fault it at all Have you ever owned a webley or escort ? No Have had a go on an escort though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Did it jam on you then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Did it jam on you then ? No Although I was using 3.5'' homeloads.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach1234 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Not sure if this is any help but here is a second hand beretta semi-auto for £500 at Northallerton shooting and country wear (www.nsac.co.uk) Hope this helps George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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