The_Craws Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 I'm relatively new to shooting. From what I can gather: you need a firearm certificate for a semi-automatic shotgun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 you only need an FAC for a semi-auto if it can hold more than 3 cartridges. most off-the-rack semis only hold 3 so they can be held on a normal shotgun license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 The Craws, you can have a 3 shot semi-auto on your shotgun certificate. More than a 3 shot has to go on a F.A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craws Posted April 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 (edited) I understand when applying for a firearm certificate you need to provide a good reason for every firearm you wish to hold. Why then would you want a semi-auto that can hold more than 3 shots when you can have a .22 rimfire with a sound moderator which surely is a far better option for the control of vermin which apart from target shooting is the only satisfactory reason for having a firearm? What about pump actions? I thought that the main reason for a shotgun was the shooting of game birds and clays. Edited April 16, 2005 by The_Craws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 hi, i have shooting friends who have 5 and 7 shot autos and they use them for pigeon shooting, where a .22 would be impractical. i have no need for an FAC auto, but in the right hands they can be excellent for pigeons. one of my them once shot 5 birds before the first hit the floor (he's a much better shot than me! :*) ) pump actions are basically the same, no more than 3 shot on a shotgun license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craws Posted April 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Yeh, makes sence that a semi-auto would be better for pest species of bird because you have a bigger margin of error. So here comes the next question: Why would you have a pump action over a semi-auto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 (edited) dont know about pump but with semi auto you just have to keep pulling the triger. Edited April 16, 2005 by hawkeye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 A .22Rf wont take pigeons, crows etc flying well not responsably any way. Pump action over a semi auto cant see a great deal of differance the pump is manualy cocked so their will be slightly less moving parts and potentialy less to go wrong. Semi auto will cycle faster. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 (edited) most people go for the pump due to reliability as dave said, especially military etc. no need to worry about light/heavy loads cycling properly, just pump it so to speak and off you go. also you really can tell the difference with the weight with a FAC shooty (in my opinion) the extra cartridges are adding that bit of extra weight. Edited April 16, 2005 by baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craws Posted April 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 I'm totally enlightened now! Thanks to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon_decoyer Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 I've just bought a 3 shot pump action! I just wanted a change, I know it would be easier and quicker to use a semi auto, but I mainly bought it out of pure interest as im interested in them! PD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craws Posted April 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 They are pretty interesting. What make is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon_decoyer Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Donno its an old thing its made in amarica! Will get it out tomorrow and takes some pictures! PD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsenator Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 If your using alot of heavy cartridges or just alot of cartridges or your of a slight build you'll appreciate the slightly lesser recoil of a semi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinkus Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Ive got a remington 1187 that holds 12 with the extended mag tube on it,or five without fantastic semi auto and you can get loads of bits for them. I use it for pest control and practical shotgun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craws Posted April 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Sounds good, what would you put on a FAC application if you needed one of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMY Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Craw, If you want my advice, forget it, there aint a lot of people that can make much practical use of a 3 shot never mind a 8 or 12 shot pump or auto, shooting bolting rabbit's is about the best exception. You say your new to the game stick to one gun initially, it takes great skill and expertise and experience, handling an O/U one day, Semi the next and S/S the next, it can become very frustrating. Keep it simple for now. We all know what it's like when you get your Cert's, great exitement want to by everything. Don't mean to sound a bore, but I think it's quite practical advice. Hammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craws Posted April 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Thanks for the advice. I wasnt actually considering getting one at the moment, I was just interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Craw, If you want my advice, forget it, there aint a lot of people that can make much practical use of a 3 shot never mind a 8 or 12 shot pump or auto, shooting bolting rabbit's is about the best exception. You say your new to the game stick to one gun initially, it takes great skill and expertise and experience, handling an O/U one day, Semi the next and S/S the next, it can become very frustrating. Keep it simple for now. We all know what it's like when you get your Cert's, great exitement want to by everything. Don't mean to sound a bore, but I think it's quite practical advice. Hammy Now there is a guy who speaks the truth,too many shooters turn to multiple guns, for a new shooter Hammy is right, pick one recommended by an experienced shooter who can give you sound advice (i.e. what are you looking to shoot regularly )and as you improove , so will your knowledge for the right guns . personaly i find semi autos to be a little too finiky in the tempreture ranges here ,basicaly they cratter in the cold ,the pump will always work ,unless your arm falls off ,but overall the O/U 's never lets me down . Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greener Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Been reading this topic, I take it then that for pest control, including pigeon shooting, one can use more than 3 shot guns. Can someone please confirm. Looking forward to a week's shooting next July in Shropshire. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Greener go back to the first replies, anything over a 3 shot needs a FAC regardless of what you intend useing it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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