Muzzel Loading shotgun any experiance??

[Edward]

I have seen pictures of black powder muzzle loading shotgun 'in action' and all I can say is I want one!

 

Anyone any experiance with them?

 

I would assume that a modern replica would be safer and more sound(proof etc) than an original but worth less

 

Do you need a special license for black powder?

 

I read an article in praise of the Ardesa Fowler Here

 

Can a reputable gun shop get a gun like that for you??

 

Thanks

[Imperfection]

Far as i know-you need an explosives licence to aquire and keep black powder which you apply to the Police for in same way as SGC/FAC,but they last for 3 years instead.

 

Im fascinated with old blackpowder guns too and am looking into it!

[Pest control]

henry kranks has this gun in stock

[bruno22rf]

Shot a black powder S/S 12g for about 10 years and loved every minute of it-i only sold it in the end cos i started pigeon shooting over decoys and the time taken to reload meant a lot of birds were lost.Its not a cheap hobby cos you need a powder flask/shot flask and a capper not to mention black powder (or modern equivilant) caps and 2 types of wad.Add to this list the shot and you are talking a lot of money just to get started.You will need an explosives licence to buy/store B.powder and your local FEO should be able to advise you on safe storage (not in a metal container from what i remember).I would go for a standard 12g replica by pedersoli or navy arms as they are well built and can stand a fair bit of abuse (like firing 2 loads put into one barrell by mistake-easily done in a hurry).B.powder guns have very little or no choke so dont think long range duck hunting but they are effective at most types shooting and are brilliant fun for a gentle walk around the feilds when you are not in a hurry to clear pigeons off crops.Buy a jacket with a lot of pockets cos these guns need little extras like brushes and pins excetra to keep the nipples clean.Practice is the key to fast and safe loading-place your loading equipment in sequence in your pockets and you should be fine-after firing each shot and before loading you need to half cock the hammer and blow down the tubes to ensure all the powder has burnt-the thought of pouring fresh powder onto a stubborn spark is frightening when you consider that you could have a further 1/4 lb still in your hand-smoking and BP guns do not mix well!.Make sure you clean them as soon as you can after use because the powder residue is prone to rust everything in sight (smells like rotten eggs as well so dont expect a lot of loving from her indoors when you start using her sink.)If i had the cash i would buy another one tommorow cos of the fun factor alone-they also get loads of attention at clay shoots.Have fun-and keep your powder dry!

Edited August 10, 2009 by bruno22rf

[Edward]

Thanks

 

So I would need:

Gun (obviously)

Shot

Powder (I read about some stuff that didnt need and explosives license?? Pyrodex?)

caps (are they just primers like in an sg cart??)

Powder measure

Powder flask

Shot flask

Wads (just normal plastic/fibre?)

Over shot card

 

And a box to put it all in

Edited August 11, 2009 by EdwardtheloneShooter

[gubby_uk]

Go for a flintlock like a Brown Bess. Then you know your shooting I had one for years, that and a Baker rifle. You pull the trigger, big flash, then wait for the bang. You can use Pyrodex without needing a powder licence. You've got me thinking about it again now. Wonder how the boss is going to react to that one, bless her

[Edward]

I did think about a brown bess, mainly because thats what I really want..... but it was 1200 quid and I was really looking at 400

The parents dont see the apeal of the black powder muzzle loader :look:

 

Thanks

[gubby_uk]

Wait till they have a go with it, then watch the smile start to grow Have a look at http://www.albionsmallarms.co.uk/otherguns.htm .They sell repros. If you look about you can get a Bess for £300-£400 ish second hand. I have seen one somewhere recently for about£200. I will have a look tonight when I get home from my so called work

[Edward]

Thanks gubby

 

How much is pyrodex per kg?

 

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know how much it is to have a BP gun reproofed for nitro?? (I had the wall thickness measured and it is plenty thick enough)

[Delbert]

I have seen pictures of black powder muzzle loading shotgun 'in action' and all I can say is I want one!

 

Anyone any experiance with them?

 

I usually make a beeline for the smoke plume at gamefairs and there seem to be plenty of clubs about so google blackpowder and your local area and I'd bet one will come up. Local knowledge is great as chances are there is a specialist dealer handy there used to be a Glossop club that turned out in full Edwardian shooting rig and had days on the grouse.

[starlight32]

Black powder shooting is a like it or you don't pastime. I enjoy shooting black powder rifles but nothing else-Far too involved

[Dead-Eyed Duck]

I shoot a db 20g, db 10g and single 6g percussion, and great fun they are too.

 

You have to take your time, and bear in mind that there are no chokes, so ranges have to be as appropriate.

 

You will have difficulty in getting one at a 'reasonable' price unles it is a repro, but there is nothing wrong in these as there are some very good ones about.

 

I have my name down at a couple of gunshops to let me know if any originals come in for sale, and this might be your best option.... be aware though that collecting them can become a hobby in itself.

 

Don