henry d Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 I`ve been thinking of getting a 6.5 for a while and was just about sold on the idea until I,foolishly,went into the local gunshop and saw a 25-06 ruger (77) laminated stock heavy barrel(fluted)complete with mounts and T8 for£500.I had,sort of,settled for the tikka T3 varmint,as I have a 222 tikka 595 and like it.I intend to shoot fallow and possibly fox(not sure if the FLO will let me)up here and roe down in good old blighty.So please let me know what you think......thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 i havent much experiance with the 25-06, it should be a quick round as to my knoledge its bassed on a 30-06 catridge, just necked down to 25cal. i personally love the 6.5 but cant say whether it would be more or less accurate than the 6.5, but i can say this...its got to be a damned good round to be better than the 6.5. i would tend (personal thing here) to steer clear of the rugers, the 77 is probably their best rifle, but in my opinion its not as good a rifle as the tikka, but then thats what you pay for. 6.5 is a great round, has some very good characteristics.....i.e low recoil for the ammount of lead it puts down range, and an inherant accuracy, it also moderates nicely and with a t8 is more quiet than my fathers 222 with a t4 (both identicle rifles) personally i would have the 6.5, but i would seek the advice of a 25-06 owner 1st as there is no reason that cant be just as good a round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Tikka v Ruger? Ruger make some of the worst production rifles and Tikka some of the best, go with your original thoughts and banish the Ruger from your mind forever!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Many thanks Gents! I have been tending towards the Tikka,even though it`s about £780 and I will have to get it threaded,mod,mounts etc.Cheers for the input if I wasn`t working(?) I`d get the round in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 the Tikka,even though it`s about £780 and I will have to get it threaded,mod,mounts etc. Shop around! It should be cheaper than that, I think. My Stainless Varmint Synthetic T3 in .223 was £630! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 The 25-06 has a reputation as a bit of a barrel-burner as well as being bloody loud. The 6.5X55 would be the one to go for out of the two. As for Rugers… saw a nice single shot falling block at the game fair a few years ago. Lovely rifle with an extremely good trigger (obviously been worked on). The only trouble was, it was in 20-06 and not the .222 that I wanted at the time. As with all rifles you will get good and bad, so see if you can get to try one first. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 not all rugers are nasty.......most of them.., but the falling block you probably saw gemini was a No1, today i was having a go of a no1 in 357 h+h the #1 is a fine rifle, the best ruger ever made or will ever make in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 .357 H&H Are you sure you don't mean .375 H&H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 (edited) lmao its been a long day....was at a party last night untill this morning.....havent really had much sleep and i beat my top score on the stalkers comp today at bisley..maybe i should do this more often Edited June 25, 2005 by dunganick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 6.5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill billy Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 as for using it on fox you will probably be granted to use it on fox on the condision that you shoot them if you come across them while stalking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 I myself am going for a 6.5x55 at the moment. Have been told it has low recoil, muzzle blast, accurate , hard hitting and good barrel life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 as long as you shoot them when you are shooting? how would they word that, gun may only be used on pests whilst out other another species? i would imagine it would either be granted for pest and deer or just deer, no half way house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 He’s correct on this Nick. There can be a condition added to your ticket that allows you to shoot foxes whilst out shooting deer. The wording goes something like “For deer and the occasional fox whilst stalking”. This is a bit of a double edged sword really, because although you can shoot foxes with it, you can’t do it unless your primary quarry is deer. Now how the hell they are supposed to know that is the problem, although it would leave you in the doo doo if you were caught shooting at night. It would be the easiest thing to claim that you were after deer in the day, but shooting deer at night is illegal, so you wouldn’t have a leg to stand on if caught. I was looking for the same condition on my ticket for my .243, but when it came back they had just put “For foxes” on it, and had left the “Deer” out completely. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 (edited) thats the strangest thing ive ever heard, as you say its an almost un policable rule on your lisence, unless your using it at night how are they meant to tell. oh well i stand corrected, very intresting that, my dad has the intresting situation on his ticket that he can use the 6.5 for foxes on any land he deems suitable (open cert) but can only shoot deer on land cleared for 6.5, so he is out foxing and see's a deer, he is shooting the same deer legal round, taking the same very safe shot apart from this time the target is larger and suddenly the police have to have something to do with it. strange bunch these plods Edited June 26, 2005 by dunganick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Is 25-06 a legal calibre for deer in England? Is it .240 or greater? PP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 it is indeed .240 and larger, so it is legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riothedog Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 I used to go deer stalking with a mate who had a 25-06 and he wouldn't have anything else. Had it in a Heym. good calibre that does the job on deer. Accurate too. Which one do you really want? RTD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 (edited) Thanks again everyone......It seems that the 6.5 is again top of the wish list.....so it`s off to the GC GAME FAIR and pester the gun traders P.S.Dunganick I`ve been stopped by the boys in blue a couple of times whilst lamping and I think it`s best to have all bases covered,and remember it`s not just calibre it`s bullet weight and velocity/energy. Edited June 29, 2005 by henry d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 England, Wales and Northern Ireland- For deer of any species a minimum calibre of .240 inches (.236 inches in Northern Ireland) and a minimum muzzle energy of 1,700 foot pounds is the legal requirement. In Northern Ireland the minimum bullet weight is 100 grains. Scotland- For deer of any species the bullet must weigh at least 100 grains AND have a minimum muzzle velocity of 2,450 feet per second AND minimum muzzle energy of 1,750 foot pounds. or For roe deer the bullet must weigh at least 50 grains AND have a minimum muzzle velocity of 2,450 feet per second AND a minimum muzzle energy of 1,000 foot pounds. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 (edited) Thanks again everyone......It seems that the 6.5 is again top of the wish list.....so it`s off to the GC GAME FAIR and pester the gun traders P.S.Dunganick I`ve been stopped by the boys in blue a couple of times whilst lamping and I think it`s best to have all bases covered,and remember it`s not just calibre it`s bullet weight and velocity/energy. im not quite sure why i needed to be told this....i am aware of this so im not sure why i am being told this , but thanks anyway Edited June 29, 2005 by dunganick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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