Tobyb525 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 hi, I was just wondering if it is legal for a friend to come clay shooting with me using his dad's gun, bearing in mind he has permission to, using it under my licence and supervision as he does not yet have his sc? thanks, Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJUK Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 So your mates Dad, will lend you a gun, you have a SGC and you will then lend this gun to your mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 As far as I am aware only the owner of land can take an unlicensed person out, read this as it talks about this subject. link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I think you'd have to sign the gun over to your licence and take him out. (You'll need his dad to sign it) Isn't it just easier to share your gun though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 If you are the holder of a SGC you can have another certificate holders gun in your possession for 72 hrs, without the need for any paper work. You cannot lend or give your gun to someone who is not a certificate holder - both of you would commit and offence. The only exception that could apply in this case is if you are the occupier of land, and you lend you gun to someone you are shooting with - but then again we open up the old chestnut of who the police think are occupiers of land. Farmers, yes, farming tenants yes, anyone else...maybe- check with the police in your area who is a tenant in their eyes. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Does it not depend on where you intend to go shooting clays? i thought if they had a section 11 certificate it would be ok for non certificate holders to shoot?.....i may be wrong Shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Does it not depend on where you intend to go shooting clays? i thought if they had a section 11 certificate it would be ok for non certificate holders to shoot?.....i may be wrong Shaun Only under the instruction of the person named on the section 11 usually the coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Of course, if you are on clay ground with 11.6 for example then a non certificate holder can shoot there - under supervision I suggest! David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Isn't there an age thing involved somewhere? Like the ticket holder has to be 21, or am I just imagening this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 11.6 permits are issued to a named person who has responsibility for the non-sgc holders shooting on the named land ( 11.6s give time and place, can be a single day, a schedule, or 24/365 depending on the clay ground's needs). If there is an 11.6 permit at a ground, and you just roll up and shoot with your mate, your mate being a non-sgc, you are comitting an offence unless you have reported to the 11.6 holder and the sgc holder has been delegated the responsibility of the supervision. If you are unkown to the 11.6 holder, they will probably want you to go with the club coach or a known member of the ground. Interestingly, the supervision of juniors by an responsible person over the age of 21 does not require that the supervising person has a SGC, although it would be prudent if they did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 As far as I am aware only the owner of land can take an unlicensed person out, read this as it talks about this subject. link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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