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To what purpose in both cases ?

The maggots put me off .

checked to see if any were edible ,then reported as fly tipping.

To be fair Scully i have probably made too sweeping a statement concerning commercial shooting ,caught in the trap of believing every story i read about bags being dumped etc i cant be specific nationally but have seen it locally with my own eyes . As with everything there will be some super ethical well run shoots and some awful ones who persecute raptors and dump game, sadly we all as shooters ,hunters, call us what you will ,we will all be judged by the worst standards by the non shooting public .Wild-fowlers are the same some ethically perfect tainted by the behaviour of a few skybusters .I know of one chap travels to Scotland several times a year to shoot geese stays up to a fortnight then drops the majority of his bag into a hunt kennels ,he wont eat them and cant give 20 plus away but they all get eaten ! right or wrong ? who am i to judge. If offence was caused with comments about commercial shoots i apologise as it wasn't intended .

Thanks Konor ,that makes it clear ,seems most of the issues are caused by commercial large shoots anyway ,most cant seem to get rid of the bag regardless of being shot with lead or non toxic ,so if not used in the food chain the question of justification comes in to it.I think eating what you shoot is important . i think that commercial shoots are more affected than us small pot hunters ,i have adapted to non toxic years ago ,i used Bismuth in my old Scott 10 bore ,i use bismuth steel and tss in the 410 and steel in my 20 ga, if i needed to load or source large quantities of cartridges for big driven days i would be in trouble ! .Basc seem to take the blame for the whole sorry mess not sure its justified but thats just me.

life's too short to go through all that lot again ! just a short appraisal will be fine 😀

what was the question again ? What consequences will we have to deal with ?

Completely agree , brilliant that Basc is on the ball fighting this nonsense .

your probably going to get the blame for that one as well 😐

Exactly .

Thankyou .

Thankyou i can copy but little else i am afraid .

Thanks Dave.

Latest stick in Lime wood, small amount of paint and varnish on the bill the rest is burnt .I really enjoy making these but finding a good shank is a real pain (should have cut more last year ) this one is a good stout Hazell , 30mm at the top end .

News report states there is evidence to support suspicious disappearance. I wonder if we will ever hear the evidence ?

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Thats refreshing to hear ,he has a valid point as i said .

sorry forgot this is a shooting forum ,i will have a word with myself 😉

Has he not got a point ? (tin hat on )

keep using lead till you cant .

The engraving looks more like Zabala and the one made by SKB i am pretty sure had the selector on the trigger .

SKB supplied BSA with a single trigger ejector in the eighties .They are great little guns.

A dealer will refuse to take unless you pay them .

This will all come as a real eye opener to all of the wild fowlers who have been using Bismuth to good effect for over 10 years .Are you sure your not just trying to discredit any competition to your new shot , (honestly mind ).

You do not state the gun condition prior to the shoot or the type of cartridge, you do not know what type they were hp or not ,it really is quite simple to understand the most important facts are missing ,yet it suits a retailer specialising in fine English guns to blame steel very easy to understand .He could even have been poking 3 inch shells or 2 3/4 inch shells in to a fine old English 2 1/2 inch chambered gun …. without these facts you are speculating .Simple. Also your table from your link stating permitted wads for Bismuth…ie cupped plastic wad is incorrect, fibre is often used .